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Resent-From: Leo Prikler Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: guix-patches@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2021 09:54:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 49329 X-GNU-PR-Package: guix-patches X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: zimoun , 49329@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 49329-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B49329.16259971897432 (code B ref 49329); Sun, 11 Jul 2021 09:54:02 +0000 Received: (at 49329) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Jul 2021 09:53:09 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33948 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1m2W97-0001vo-GM for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 11 Jul 2021 05:53:09 -0400 Received: from mailrelay.tugraz.at ([129.27.2.202]:19241) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1m2W94-0001vd-Er for 49329@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 11 Jul 2021 05:53:07 -0400 Received: from nijino.local (80-121-26-175.adsl.highway.telekom.at [80.121.26.175]) by mailrelay.tugraz.at (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4GN2JZ661vz3wNG; Sun, 11 Jul 2021 11:53:02 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tugraz.at; s=mailrelay; t=1625997183; bh=yO0Fg/n6wjOfLWsbNWfVwAvVqK+IwcHfbovZQDz+QdY=; h=Subject:From:To:Date:In-Reply-To:References; b=fO991/7izYzS8sULgGWUUfcEeY2fV0rFQ8jBUYXkxGMdpZl0QxSjZHHCP3VFHsP3c heZpZ1HxkNZKmnEn7Qe98Q2Gr5uu/EBN1vyp5DzIuSQ3l++/YYdFPce2P8xZ0IzrGg wXtyXbjsYXL2rAP/5mC6blLk4VsLe8VoQd9pjAOM= Message-ID: <794829194e7b95660ac164920bc62f68e14a0508.camel@student.tugraz.at> From: Leo Prikler Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2021 11:53:02 +0200 In-Reply-To: <86r1g5i7ai.fsf@gmail.com> References: <20210702135818.16084-1-leo.prikler@student.tugraz.at> <8635sval9h.fsf@gmail.com> <68f5b3c4ac813caef41da4062179eb2d07ae2575.camel@student.tugraz.at> <86r1g5i7ai.fsf@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" User-Agent: Evolution 3.34.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-TUG-Backscatter-control: bt4lQm5Tva3SBgCuw0EnZw X-Spam-Scanner: SpamAssassin 3.003001 X-Spam-Score-relay: -1.9 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.74 on 129.27.10.116 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: guix-patches@gnu.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-patches" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1625997269; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding:resent-cc: resent-from:resent-sender:resent-message-id:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=yO0Fg/n6wjOfLWsbNWfVwAvVqK+IwcHfbovZQDz+QdY=; b=f102R6zfXwWikU9J9dKKM3iO/qSpKNCN+qj7KLWyNTds+6m07NdMd9qPUmojU3mUxbzyyM K5BUF8QY+UpexwiMsoVWyJvKeWIu9o1nkhov4/7ro/5FlBVQEOdlasAWAsNtR15Uco3UYB 16kh02lk+uNrnwc2+fTDMn4lV21XymWSqUJl8tyxz4sKzEhKimB6FY1iQbE9UZPEhPxvlA TAl3F7VaxVIUwuby/gcSSeUOpTP85XH1uVNzTVXLg2xpWTkNlOwphbbDuBVrU/YaYxzSIR vXK0X4PXZWc+ZkRybPoOuxS6Kx3seq/2Zgqof9bplvxxNQ59NrXq4xliO9O/8g== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1625997269; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=gkJLQnT8rlmbP2PdgMHlOKod6bGoenMzpSt/iUAshABgAv2PKWCkgxtC3kpPKMVRs9Im7b lAGf5rJNxUmSBgglaM0oer9KPT1g4o2oo2wd2It2e1VmYZDcn5XqixCOoT5z7+Ad5hHq2I Zmf8h8acfdynY/xXb+ccw8O7aQDamCQ6mEpc9sW9Duzrjv5Ox0ykNrB3ut62HD2f8v2MzG ev45Z/RQhTfgKpw1F6/DfOnjNqiPYe6q7Lsjahrto5J8gGbxYIA9dULmThxSkh3Q5hdAAw 4s6L/HRLkHlfEllVEFr7t3PnIa8nMkcclQHE4pK1v2l6upfNDdvYprdKsCeKlw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=tugraz.at header.s=mailrelay header.b="fO991/7i"; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=student.tugraz.at (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-patches-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-patches-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -1.31 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=tugraz.at header.s=mailrelay header.b="fO991/7i"; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=student.tugraz.at (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-patches-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-patches-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 956C121B31 X-Spam-Score: -1.31 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: Ff2QfG+IxsU4 Hi simon, Am Sonntag, den 11.07.2021, 10:28 +0200 schrieb zimoun: > Hi Leo, > > On Sat, 03 Jul 2021 at 10:35, Leo Prikler < > leo.prikler@student.tugraz.at> wrote: > > > I must admit, I haven't been following the Python 2 removal plan > > too > > closely. Is it already time to move working leaf packages? > > The Python EOL is January, 1rst 2020 [1]. So now, we are 1.5 years > ahead, so yes it seems already time to cook a plan. :-) > > However, there is no consensus about such plan. ;-) Some related > discussions: I know, but to be fair, we aren't the only ones behind on the Python removal. Python 2 is very much a zombie at this point, still kept alive by other (mostly dead, but some live) projects that people rely on for various reasons. > 2018-12: > 2019-10: < > https://yhetil.org/guix/CAJ3okZ33HsXxgVgK3XyVHvYUfDUrbcwBnOn7FC6=3AG_YvAUbQ@mail.gmail.com/ > > > 2019-11: Failed attempt to > cook something > 2021-01: > > From my understanding, the “implemented” plan is described by Maxim > here: > > Using this plan as a starting point, I think renpy counts as a non- variant package relying on some python2-variant. > I just want to point that it is less work to transfer a functional > and > supported by upstream package than to transfer a package starting to > have issues. Other said, I think it is easier to find motivation to > do > the transfer for this previous case than to do some “janitor” work > later. For what my opinion is worth. :-) Fair enough, I could open up a merge request to have renpy in Guix Past "ahead of time", but OTOH I feel like `guix time-machine` offers similar benefits. If we're going to *mirror* python packages, because they will soon be broken, I think it would also be a good idea to start from python2 instead of leaf packages. Regards, Leo