From: Pjotr Prins <pjotr.public12@thebird.nl>
To: Marius Bakke <mbakke@fastmail.com>
Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: add DEPRECATION grace period: the upcoming Great Python2 Purge™
Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 14:33:55 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181226133355.5hqv35f3y5tm3gnk@thebird.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87pnto8o76.fsf@fastmail.com>
On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 01:30:53PM +0100, Marius Bakke wrote:
> Efraim Flashner <efraim@flashner.co.il> writes:
>
> > We're now about a year out from the official EOL for python2 (Jan 1,
> > 2020). So far we've been not adding python2 variants of packages that
> > are new unless they're actually needed for something. Do we want to
> > start removing python2 packages when updating other packages if they are
> > leaf packages?
>
> I think it's okay to start removing "leaf" Python 2 packages. In most
> cases they were probably never used anyway, or the dependents have
> transitioned to their Python 3 counterparts.
>
> We'll probably break some channels, but I'm sure our users won't have
> any difficulties adding them back to their own channels if need be.
>
> On a related note, we also have a number of [Python 3] packages that
> have been failing to build for a long time. Some of these are trivial,
> i.e. what "guix import" produces.
>
> It would be good to get rid of those as well, as the would-be user is
> much better off starting from "guix import" instead of first getting
> disappointed by the Guix package and then having to go through all the
> trouble of submitting a patch.
>
> Should we have some sort of policy or threshold for when to remove such
> packages? Maybe after 3-6 months?
A lot of software outside Guix still depends on Python2, for better or
worse. I don't believe EOL means they are going to drop security
updates. Leaf packages may well be in use today.
Is there a way we mark packages as DEPRECATED? I think we should not
just remove packages without a grace period. Deprecate for, say, 3
months or even 6 months is the way to do this. A deprecation tag
should include a time stamp that gives the (planned) removal time.
Pj.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-12-26 13:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-12-26 9:38 the upcoming Great Python2 Purge™ Efraim Flashner
2018-12-26 12:30 ` Marius Bakke
2018-12-26 13:33 ` Pjotr Prins [this message]
2018-12-27 4:47 ` add DEPRECATION grace period: " Leo Famulari
2018-12-27 15:52 ` Alex Vong
2018-12-27 4:50 ` Leo Famulari
2018-12-26 19:47 ` Konrad Hinsen
2018-12-27 4:38 ` Leo Famulari
2018-12-27 14:49 ` Brett Gilio
2019-02-18 9:56 ` Efraim Flashner
2019-02-18 10:16 ` Konrad Hinsen
2019-02-18 10:29 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2019-02-18 11:02 ` Konrad Hinsen
2019-02-18 11:07 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2019-02-18 14:42 ` zimoun
2019-02-18 16:30 ` Konrad Hinsen
2019-02-18 16:54 ` the upcoming Great Python2 Purge�?� ng0
2019-02-18 19:27 ` the upcoming Great Python2 Purge™ zimoun
2019-02-18 18:38 ` Brett Gilio
2019-02-18 21:39 ` Björn Höfling
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