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From: Danny Milosavljevic <dannym@scratchpost.org>
To: George myglc2 Clemmer <myglc2@gmail.com>
Cc: Guix-devel <guix-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Drive identifiers
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 10:29:14 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180118102914.6cb68394@scratchpost.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86y3kvzypj.fsf@gmail.com>

> IIRC the details are: when running on a system disk (say: /dev/sda) and
> installing to new disk (say: /dev/sdb) you must set the bootloader
> target to /dev/sdb so the boot loader will be copied to the new system
            ^
            |
            +--- we could change that to enable specifying a model and
                 serial number

> disk.

> But, at least on my servers, when I remove the original system
> disk, the new disk system becomes /dev/sda, and the bootloader fails.

It does?  What error message does it fail with?  Does the grub shell still start?

I thought grub's "search" facility existed to prevent this exact scenario
(since it searches for the actual file / uuid on all drives it should be immune
to drive swapping - within reason).

It would be possible for us to find out the drive's serial number
(which should be somewhat unique and persistent):

$ udevadm info --query=all --name=/dev/sda | grep ID_SERIAL # SSD
E: ID_SERIAL=Samsung_SSD_850_EVO_1TB_S21DNXAGB15171J
E: ID_SERIAL_SHORT=S21DNXAGB15171J

$ udevadm info --query=all --name=/dev/sdb | grep ID_SERIAL # SD card in X200
E: ID_SERIAL=RICOH_R5U880FlashMedia_R5U880-00003-0:0
E: ID_SERIAL_SHORT=R5U880-00003

Maybe we could make the user specify the serial number in the operating-system
bootloader-configuration.  Installing the bootloader to the wrong
drive would be very bad otherwise.  Also, it's not exactly declarative if the
labels sda, sdb etc can move around - and reconfiguring / booting ends up like
a game of musical chairs.

Although if a drive fails and an administrator replaces it by a new drive,
one would have to change the operating-system configuration and reconfigure
(which could potentially download gigabytes of data and take hours).

Not ideal.

Maybe store the original serial number into a file on disk and make Guix
fall back to checking those in a second pass (with a warning).

(Guix could still call the bootloader's installer with the name of the
device file it found out - so it wouldn't be an involved change)

We would still have to check what happens with the hard drive emulators of
CD-ROMs - do these have a unique persistent serial number?

  reply	other threads:[~2018-01-18  9:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-01-09 12:43 Installation Gábor Boskovits
2018-01-17 14:35 ` Installation Ludovic Courtès
2018-01-17 15:47   ` Installation Ricardo Wurmus
2018-01-17 19:35     ` Installation Gábor Boskovits
2018-01-18 10:27       ` Installation Ludovic Courtès
2018-01-18 10:29     ` Installation Ludovic Courtès
2018-01-18 12:05       ` Installation ng0
2018-01-18 15:11         ` Installation Ricardo Wurmus
2018-01-18 16:41           ` Installation myglc2
2018-01-22  4:38       ` Installation Chris Marusich
2018-01-22  8:29         ` Installation Gábor Boskovits
2018-01-18  2:29   ` Installation George myglc2 Clemmer
2018-01-18  9:29     ` Danny Milosavljevic [this message]
2018-01-18  9:39       ` Drive identifiers Danny Milosavljevic
2018-01-18 10:32         ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-01-18 11:01           ` Danny Milosavljevic
2018-01-19 14:35           ` Danny Milosavljevic
2018-01-18 20:10       ` myglc2
2018-01-19  8:27         ` Danny Milosavljevic
2018-01-19  0:43       ` myglc2
2018-01-19  7:22         ` Danny Milosavljevic
2018-01-19 16:42         ` Ricardo Wurmus
2018-01-24 14:12           ` Ludovic Courtès

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