From: Pjotr Prins <pjotr.public12@thebird.nl>
To: Hartmut Goebel <hartmut@goebel-consult.de>
Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Idea: 'ethical hosting' [formerly mailman service (free for FOSS projects)]
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2017 04:39:51 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170419043951.GA24028@mail.thebird.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <58F67363.8030202@goebel-consult.de>
On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 10:13:23PM +0200, Hartmut Goebel wrote:
> Am 18.04.2017 um 19:59 schrieb Pjotr Prins:
> > there is actually a business case for something like ethical hosting.
>
> I also see some demand for ethical hosting, esp. for collaboration
> services like mailman, chat, file-share, a simple web-site, etc. I get
> questions about this quite often. But most times the people are neither
> capable to setup and maintain a server at all – or they don't want to
> spend the money.
We provide the actual images for free, so they could start up anywhere.
> E.g. at 1blu.de you can get a vServer with Plesk admin interface for 8 €
> per month. This includes KVM virtualization (or virtuozzo if you
> prefer), a web-mailer, mailinglists via plesk (mailman in the
> background) and a domain.
>
> So I don't see a business case here :-(
Heh. It is actually proof that there is a business there, otherwise
they would not do it. The underlying VPS costs 3/m, so their markup is
5/m. And that is without any monitoring or tuning - just a simple
installation.
For a 2-person business you need about 10K/m. So you can compute how
many clients we need. And taking over a company mail server with
webmail and mailman, I am sure we can ask 5-10K per year.
You can grow in either direction. Main problem is starting up as it
needs some investment.
Pj.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-04-19 4:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-04-18 10:23 Idea: mailman service (free for FOSS projects) Pjotr Prins
2017-04-18 11:18 ` ng0
2017-04-18 17:59 ` Idea: 'ethical hosting' [formerly mailman service (free for FOSS projects)] Pjotr Prins
2017-04-18 18:11 ` ng0
2017-04-18 18:50 ` Pjotr Prins
2017-04-18 19:52 ` ng0
2017-04-19 4:55 ` Pjotr Prins
2017-04-19 3:59 ` Christopher Allan Webber
2017-04-19 21:06 ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-04-20 6:01 ` Idea: setting up a company [formerly 'ethical hosting' [formerly mailman service (free for FOSS projects)]] Pjotr Prins
2017-04-20 8:52 ` ng0
2017-04-20 12:18 ` Pjotr Prins
2017-04-23 18:19 ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2017-04-18 20:13 ` Idea: 'ethical hosting' [formerly mailman service (free for FOSS projects)] Hartmut Goebel
2017-04-19 4:39 ` Pjotr Prins [this message]
2017-04-19 20:34 ` Idea: mailman service (free for FOSS projects) Ludovic Courtès
2017-04-19 21:56 ` ng0
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