From: Pjotr Prins <pjotr.public12@thebird.nl>
To: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>
Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Review process
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2016 04:24:21 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160723022421.GA15436@thebird.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <874m7hk6dz.fsf_-_@gnu.org>
On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 06:02:48PM +0200, Ludovic Courtès wrote:
> > I think I have covered that both in my writeup and in my response to
> > Ben. I think this work should be accepted as is.
>
> I find this unfair. You are not a newcomer, as proved by the fact that
> you’ve already identified weaknesses in the work you submit.
Exactly.
> Thus, that you post it anyway can be understood as “I know this and that
> should be done, but I’d rather let you do it on my behalf, kthxbye”.
>
> Or perhaps you’re suggesting that reviews are unnecessary, or that the
> points we insist on make little sense?
If have explained things why they are as they are with the Elixir
package. I have done my utmost to get the package to this stage. There
is some work pending fixing tests with upstream. All that is in the
open and happening.
> Well, I can tell you that as a user, I very much prefer that people who
> add packages to the distro have taken their time to make it lean and
> clean. This QA work that you dislike is a service that we developers do
> to users; it’s not something we do for the sake of elitism.
>
> I hope this can clear misunderstandings!
Thanks Ludo. As it stands I am no longer submitting packages to ML. I
did my utmost to make the package lean and clean. This package is not
going in.
But, I suggest you listen. I know at least 4 people here who say they
have trouble submitting to Guix. Good people.
You know I love Guix and I am a great admirer of all of you and I
certainly appreciate the energy you put into developing Guix and
reviews. I won't go away, but I am making clear why I am quitting
working in this way. Mind, I saw this coming. I actually quit
submitting packages half a year ago and instead worked through others.
I was interested to see if I would survive this one last attempt. In
the end my opinion on the state of the package conflicts with yours -
even though I am the expert on Elixir here and the conflict is not
about knowledge of Guix itself. Please read this last sentence again.
I'll have a think on how to proceed from here. I want to work with
those 4 people. And I want to attract more people from conda, brew
etc. I am convinced we need to change our ways. This state of affairs
does not sit well with me. To call it elitist was a provocation, but I
actually think there is some truth to it. The world is divided in
people who can do the dance, and those who can't (for whatever
reason). We need to find a way where the lesser people (like me) can
contribute.
Now, THAT would make it a brilliant project.
Pj.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-07-23 2:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-07-21 1:39 (unknown) Unknown, Pjotr Prins
2016-07-21 1:42 ` [PATCH] gnu: Add elixir Pjotr Prins
2016-07-21 11:43 ` Ben Woodcroft
2016-07-21 12:00 ` Pjotr Prins
2016-07-22 5:26 ` Leo Famulari
2016-07-22 12:55 ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-07-22 14:12 ` Leo Famulari
2016-07-21 12:51 ` none Ludovic Courtès
2016-07-22 0:41 ` none Pjotr Prins
2016-07-22 2:06 ` none Pjotr Prins
2016-07-22 3:25 ` none Jookia
2016-07-22 3:48 ` none Leo Famulari
2016-07-22 4:48 ` none Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2016-07-22 11:07 ` none Pjotr Prins
2016-07-22 12:23 ` none Ricardo Wurmus
2016-07-22 12:50 ` none Jookia
2016-07-22 21:19 ` none Leo Famulari
2016-07-24 4:17 ` none Jookia
2016-07-24 6:35 ` none Leo Famulari
2016-07-24 7:47 ` none Jookia
2016-07-24 16:52 ` none Christopher Allan Webber
2016-07-24 17:03 ` none Andreas Enge
2016-07-22 8:15 ` none Roel Janssen
2016-07-22 14:07 ` none Leo Famulari
2016-07-22 14:15 ` none Vincent Legoll
2016-07-22 16:13 ` none Ludovic Courtès
2016-07-22 16:38 ` none myglc2
2016-07-23 7:03 ` none Tomáš Čech
2016-07-22 16:02 ` Review process Ludovic Courtès
2016-07-23 2:24 ` Pjotr Prins [this message]
2016-07-23 9:05 ` Alex Kost
2016-07-23 9:51 ` Mathieu Lirzin
2016-07-24 8:02 ` Alex Kost
2016-07-24 10:38 ` Mathieu Lirzin
2016-07-24 14:09 ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-07-24 3:30 ` A registry for distributed sources and binaries Pjotr Prins
2016-07-24 5:10 ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2016-07-24 5:16 ` Pjotr Prins
2016-07-24 5:24 ` Pjotr Prins
2016-07-24 5:29 ` Mark H Weaver
2016-07-24 5:48 ` Jookia
2016-07-24 6:37 ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2016-07-24 7:49 ` Jookia
2016-07-24 20:02 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2016-07-24 6:28 ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2016-07-24 7:02 ` Pjotr Prins
2016-07-24 7:29 ` Leo Famulari
2016-07-24 7:41 ` Pjotr Prins
2016-07-24 9:50 ` Mathieu Lirzin
2016-07-24 22:46 ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-07-24 13:58 ` Andreas Enge
2016-07-24 15:21 ` Jookia
2016-07-24 15:58 ` Andreas Enge
2016-07-24 17:18 ` replying to a message of a mailing list you were not subscribed to Danny Milosavljevic
2016-07-24 17:25 ` Danny Milosavljevic
2016-07-25 5:38 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2016-07-25 7:34 ` icecat "mailto" handler does not work - and cannot be reconfigured by user Danny Milosavljevic
2020-10-13 13:23 ` bug#24066: " Maxim Cournoyer
2020-10-16 7:12 ` Brendan Tildesley
2020-10-26 16:39 ` Jonathan Brielmaier
2016-07-24 18:50 ` A registry for distributed sources and binaries John Darrington
2016-07-25 9:14 ` Replying to bug reports Ludovic Courtès
2016-07-25 8:25 ` A registry for distributed sources and binaries Andy Wingo
2016-07-25 22:00 ` Reviewer assignment Ludovic Courtès
2016-07-24 20:35 ` A registry for distributed sources and binaries Ricardo Wurmus
2016-07-25 2:10 ` Pjotr Prins
2016-07-25 3:42 ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2016-07-25 4:57 ` Pjotr Prins
2016-07-25 7:18 ` Tomáš Čech
2016-07-25 9:21 ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-07-26 3:40 ` Pjotr Prins
2016-07-26 3:45 ` Pjotr Prins
2016-07-25 6:13 ` [PATCH] Add Elixir (was: ) Ricardo Wurmus
2016-07-25 6:31 ` Pjotr Prins
2016-07-28 7:27 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2016-07-28 8:30 ` Vincent Legoll
2016-07-28 10:35 ` Pjotr Prins
2016-07-28 20:35 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2016-07-29 2:38 ` Pjotr Prins
2016-07-29 6:32 ` Vincent Legoll
2016-08-02 8:56 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2016-08-02 14:30 ` Pjotr Prins
2016-08-02 8:44 ` [PATCH] Add Elixir Ricardo Wurmus
2016-08-02 14:29 ` Pjotr Prins
2016-08-02 17:26 ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-08-02 21:25 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2016-08-03 4:41 ` Pjotr Prins
2016-08-09 11:18 ` Pjotr Prins
2016-08-09 11:58 ` Alex Sassmannshausen
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