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From: Leo Famulari <leo@famulari.name>
To: Jookia <166291@gmail.com>
Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org, Guix-devel <guix-devel-bounces+me=tobias.gr@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: none
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 17:19:42 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160722211942.GA3434@jasmine> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160722125014.GA13270@novena-choice-citizen>

On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 10:50:14PM +1000, Jookia wrote:
> On top of that, the maintainers can't even use the mailing list properly:
> Patches are lost, discussion doesn't happen, things are lost and it's hard for
> new users to join in. Who exactly benefits from this workflow compared to
> something web-based? Sure, maybe you could argue that the maintainers are best
> served with it, or that you personally are attuned to that. Fine, but let's not
> pretend the mailing list isn't gruelling.

I've heard a handful of people express frustration with a mail-based
workflow. Here's what's easy for me:

1) I set up my mail provider / server to put all mail from
guix-devel@gnu.org into a Guix mailbox. This doesn't require advanced
knowledge. Even the most "user-friendly" solutions like GMail have this
feature.

2) When a message is "done", I put it in an Archive mailbox or delete
it. A message is done when it no longer requires attention. For example,
when I've replied and am waiting for the other person to reply, or when
a patch has been merged.

> It's a complicated setup in return for being able to track what's happening in
> the project. If I were to ask, 'how many patches are pending review' right now
> you'd have absolutely no idea.

I can look at my Guix mailbox to see all outstanding patches.

By the way, if someone asks the submitter to look into something or make
a change, the patch is no longer outstanding until they reply. The ball
is now in their court. I archive their message if I have nothing else to
add [0]. We all manage *our own submissions*. Nobody else is responsible
for that. Otherwise, we can't expect that the submitter will maintain
their code once it has been merged.

[0] Sometimes I don't archive messages, because I know that I will pick
up the work if the submitter drops it.

  reply	other threads:[~2016-07-22 21:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 104+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-07-21  1:39 (unknown) Unknown, Pjotr Prins
2016-07-21  1:42 ` [PATCH] gnu: Add elixir Pjotr Prins
2016-07-21 11:43   ` Ben Woodcroft
2016-07-21 12:00     ` Pjotr Prins
2016-07-22  5:26     ` Leo Famulari
2016-07-22 12:55       ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-07-22 14:12         ` Leo Famulari
2016-07-21 12:51 ` none Ludovic Courtès
2016-07-22  0:41   ` none Pjotr Prins
2016-07-22  2:06     ` none Pjotr Prins
2016-07-22  3:25       ` none Jookia
2016-07-22  3:48       ` none Leo Famulari
2016-07-22  4:48       ` none Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2016-07-22 11:07         ` none Pjotr Prins
2016-07-22 12:23           ` none Ricardo Wurmus
2016-07-22 12:50             ` none Jookia
2016-07-22 21:19               ` Leo Famulari [this message]
2016-07-24  4:17                 ` none Jookia
2016-07-24  6:35                   ` none Leo Famulari
2016-07-24  7:47                     ` none Jookia
2016-07-24 16:52               ` none Christopher Allan Webber
2016-07-24 17:03                 ` none Andreas Enge
2016-07-22  8:15     ` none Roel Janssen
2016-07-22 14:07       ` none Leo Famulari
2016-07-22 14:15         ` none Vincent Legoll
2016-07-22 16:13       ` none Ludovic Courtès
2016-07-22 16:38         ` none myglc2
2016-07-23  7:03           ` none Tomáš Čech
2016-07-22 16:02     ` Review process Ludovic Courtès
2016-07-23  2:24       ` Pjotr Prins
2016-07-23  9:05         ` Alex Kost
2016-07-23  9:51           ` Mathieu Lirzin
2016-07-24  8:02             ` Alex Kost
2016-07-24 10:38               ` Mathieu Lirzin
2016-07-24 14:09               ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-07-24  3:30       ` A registry for distributed sources and binaries Pjotr Prins
2016-07-24  5:10         ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2016-07-24  5:16           ` Pjotr Prins
2016-07-24  5:24         ` Pjotr Prins
2016-07-24  5:29         ` Mark H Weaver
2016-07-24  5:48           ` Jookia
2016-07-24  6:37             ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2016-07-24  7:49               ` Jookia
2016-07-24 20:02             ` Ricardo Wurmus
2016-07-24  6:28           ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2016-07-24  7:02             ` Pjotr Prins
2016-07-24  7:29           ` Leo Famulari
2016-07-24  7:41             ` Pjotr Prins
2016-07-24  9:50           ` Mathieu Lirzin
2016-07-24 22:46           ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-07-24 13:58         ` Andreas Enge
2016-07-24 15:21           ` Jookia
2016-07-24 15:58             ` Andreas Enge
2016-07-24 17:18             ` replying to a message of a mailing list you were not subscribed to Danny Milosavljevic
2016-07-24 17:25               ` Danny Milosavljevic
2016-07-25  5:38                 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2016-07-25  7:34                   ` icecat "mailto" handler does not work - and cannot be reconfigured by user Danny Milosavljevic
2020-10-13 13:23                     ` bug#24066: " Maxim Cournoyer
2020-10-16  7:12                     ` Brendan Tildesley
2020-10-26 16:39                     ` Jonathan Brielmaier
2016-07-24 18:50             ` A registry for distributed sources and binaries John Darrington
2016-07-25  9:14             ` Replying to bug reports Ludovic Courtès
2016-07-25  8:25           ` A registry for distributed sources and binaries Andy Wingo
2016-07-25 22:00             ` Reviewer assignment Ludovic Courtès
2016-07-24 20:35         ` A registry for distributed sources and binaries Ricardo Wurmus
2016-07-25  2:10           ` Pjotr Prins
2016-07-25  3:42             ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2016-07-25  4:57               ` Pjotr Prins
2016-07-25  7:18           ` Tomáš Čech
2016-07-25  9:21           ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-07-26  3:40             ` Pjotr Prins
2016-07-26  3:45               ` Pjotr Prins
2016-07-25  6:13 ` [PATCH] Add Elixir (was: ) Ricardo Wurmus
2016-07-25  6:31   ` Pjotr Prins
2016-07-28  7:27     ` Ricardo Wurmus
2016-07-28  8:30       ` Vincent Legoll
2016-07-28 10:35       ` Pjotr Prins
2016-07-28 20:35         ` Ricardo Wurmus
2016-07-29  2:38           ` Pjotr Prins
2016-07-29  6:32             ` Vincent Legoll
2016-08-02  8:56             ` Ricardo Wurmus
2016-08-02 14:30               ` Pjotr Prins
2016-08-02  8:44     ` [PATCH] Add Elixir Ricardo Wurmus
2016-08-02 14:29       ` Pjotr Prins
2016-08-02 17:26       ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-08-02 21:25         ` Ricardo Wurmus
2016-08-03  4:41           ` Pjotr Prins
2016-08-09 11:18           ` Pjotr Prins
2016-08-09 11:58             ` Alex Sassmannshausen
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2016-07-23  9:15 none David Craven
2015-03-25 22:49 (unknown), Tomáš Čech
2015-03-26 21:22 ` none Ludovic Courtès
2015-03-26 21:52   ` none Tomáš Čech
2014-12-03 18:02 (unknown) Tomas Cech
2014-12-04 23:04 ` none Ludovic Courtès
2014-12-05  8:35   ` none Tomas Cech
2014-12-06 14:06     ` none Ludovic Courtès
2014-02-11 22:17 Gnunet-0.10.0 recipe Sree Harsha Totakura
2014-02-12 15:15 ` (unknown), Sree Harsha Totakura
2014-02-12 17:36   ` none Ludovic Courtès
2014-02-12 17:38     ` none Sree Harsha Totakura
2014-02-12 19:25     ` none Andreas Enge
2014-02-12 20:30       ` none Ludovic Courtès
2014-02-12 20:53         ` none Andreas Enge
2014-02-04 15:12 (unknown), John Darrington
2014-02-04 20:47 ` none Ludovic Courtès
2014-02-05 16:17   ` none Mark H Weaver
2014-02-05 17:38     ` none John Darrington
2014-02-05 18:35       ` none Ludovic Courtès

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