From: Liliana Marie Prikler <liliana.prikler@ist.tugraz.at>
To: Philip McGrath <philip@philipmcgrath.com>, 57050@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: [bug#57050] [PATCH 4/6] gnu: Update Racket to 8.6. Add Zuo.
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2022 09:34:18 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4cc4eedb34c8fea583b2f41ed1ed52095786fe44.camel@ist.tugraz.at> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8096362.Sb9uPGUboI@avalon>
Am Dienstag, dem 09.08.2022 um 16:56 -0400 schrieb Philip McGrath:
> Hi,
>
> On Monday, August 8, 2022 5:01:31 AM EDT Liliana Marie Prikler wrote:
> > You should really split this into two patches. One to add Zuo, one
> > to
> > upgrade the Racket stuff. Maybe you need even more steps if Zuo
> > depends on parts of the racket bootstrap.
> >
> > You will probably have to parameterize the Racket origin in a bunch
> > of
> > packages to get things going. As an upside, this added flexibility
> > hopefully comes in handy with the next Racket upgrade.
> >
>
> I am especially reluctant to split this patch apart.
>
> If I had to, I could make one patch adding the Zuo package with an
> origin inheriting from the previous %racket-origin, but adjusting
> the patches, commit, file name, and checksum to make the %racket-
> origin in this patch. (As I wrote in the patch, Zuo has no
> dependencies, it's just `cc -o zuo zuo.c`.)
> Then, a second patch would make %racket-origin as it is in this
> package, change Zuo to use it, and update the other packages.
>
> But I do not see the benefit in doing so. I would still need a commit
> changing the same set of packages, short of leaving some of them
> broken. And adding, then immediately removing, a temporary origin
> for Zuo would seem to me to make reviewing this harder, not easier,
> both now and when reviewing these changes in the future.
I don't think you'd need to add an extra variable for the zuo origin,
though. You can simply write (source (origin <whatever>)) and once
you're done switch to (source %racket-origin). That ought to be easy
enough to review.
As for future series, I sadly can't predict what Racket is up to next.
It seems every minor release brings with it a chain of bootstrap
changes and that's very exhausting (at least for me it is, but I can
imagine it's not that easy for you either). We could place our hopes
in the belief that the next Racket upgrade won't be that – then you
simply need to bump Racket origin and that's it. But I personally fear
it won't be that easy and we should prepare.
> The packages developed in the main Racket Git repository are very
> tightly linked.
You mean coupled.
> They are developed there precisely to make sure they are all always
> at consistent versions. Fighting against that is just going to cause
> difficulty with every Racket update. For example, there is no
> commitment that the version of Zuo released with Racket 8.5 will be
> able to build Racket 8.6.
>
> I think this patch is better as a single commit, and at lease as
> justified as commits like b97f549b14402421fcfb360ddd4cff7de93b9af0.
Such commits are an exception rather than a norm, and personally, I
wouldn't sign them off. Since you claim that zuo has no dependencies,
this could easily be avoided, no?
Cheers
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-08-10 7:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 122+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-08-08 6:06 [bug#57050] [PATCH 0/6] gnu: Update Racket to 8.6. Add Zuo Philip McGrath
2022-08-08 6:10 ` [bug#57050] [PATCH 1/6] gnu: stex: Update to 1.2.2-2.afa6075 Philip McGrath
2022-08-08 6:10 ` [bug#57050] [PATCH 2/6] gnu: stex: Fix read-only gifs and math directories Philip McGrath
2022-08-08 6:10 ` [bug#57050] [PATCH 3/6] gnu: chez-scheme: Fix use of "/bin/sh" Philip McGrath
2022-08-08 8:53 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-08-09 20:25 ` Philip McGrath
2022-08-09 21:24 ` Maxime Devos
2022-08-09 21:38 ` ( via Guix-patches via
2022-08-09 21:58 ` Philip McGrath
2022-08-09 22:09 ` ( via Guix-patches via
2022-08-10 11:46 ` Maxime Devos
2022-08-08 6:10 ` [bug#57050] [PATCH 4/6] gnu: Update Racket to 8.6. Add Zuo Philip McGrath
2022-08-08 9:01 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-08-09 20:56 ` Philip McGrath
2022-08-10 7:34 ` Liliana Marie Prikler [this message]
2022-08-08 6:10 ` [bug#57050] [PATCH 5/6] gnu: racket: Use Racket CS on all systems Philip McGrath
2022-08-08 9:10 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-08-08 6:10 ` [bug#57050] [PATCH 6/6] gnu: chez-scheme-for-racket: Suport " Philip McGrath
2022-08-08 9:15 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-08-10 15:30 ` [bug#57050] [PATCH 0/6] gnu: Update Racket to 8.6. Add Zuo Thiago Jung Bauermann via Guix-patches via
2022-08-11 4:00 ` Philip McGrath
2022-08-11 11:08 ` [bug#57050] [PATCH v2 00/13] " Philip McGrath
2022-08-11 11:08 ` [bug#57050] [PATCH v2 01/13] gnu: stex: Update to 1.2.2-2.afa6075 Philip McGrath
2022-08-11 11:08 ` [bug#57050] [PATCH v2 02/13] gnu: stex: Fix read-only gifs and math directories Philip McGrath
2022-08-11 11:13 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-08-11 11:08 ` [bug#57050] [PATCH v2 03/13] gnu: chez-scheme: Fix use of "/bin/sh" Philip McGrath
2022-08-11 11:08 ` [bug#57050] [PATCH v2 04/13] gnu: Add Zuo Philip McGrath
2022-08-11 11:31 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-08-11 14:00 ` Philip McGrath
2022-08-11 15:34 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-08-11 23:32 ` Philip McGrath
2022-08-16 14:47 ` Maxime Devos
2022-08-23 1:40 ` Philip McGrath
2022-08-23 9:11 ` Maxime Devos
2022-08-23 23:24 ` Philip McGrath
2022-08-23 9:20 ` Maxime Devos
2022-08-24 0:27 ` Philip McGrath
2022-08-24 5:42 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-08-24 5:47 ` Philip McGrath
2022-08-25 8:54 ` [bug#57050] [PATCH v3 00/14] gnu: Update Racket to 8.6. " Philip McGrath
2022-08-25 8:54 ` [bug#57050] [PATCH v3 01/14] gnu: stex: Update to 1.2.2-2.afa6075 Philip McGrath
2022-08-25 8:54 ` [bug#57050] [PATCH v3 02/14] gnu: stex: Fix read-only gifs and math directories Philip McGrath
2022-08-25 8:54 ` [bug#57050] [PATCH v3 03/14] etc: teams: Add racket team Philip McGrath
2022-08-25 8:54 ` [bug#57050] [PATCH v3 04/14] etc: teams: Add entry for Philip McGrath Philip McGrath
2022-08-25 8:54 ` [bug#57050] [PATCH v3 05/14] gnu: racket: Adjust patch for "/bin/sh" in rktio Philip McGrath
2022-08-25 9:09 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-08-25 19:16 ` Philip McGrath
2022-08-25 8:54 ` [bug#57050] [PATCH v3 06/14] gnu: chez-scheme: Fix use of "/bin/sh" Philip McGrath
2022-08-25 8:54 ` [bug#57050] [PATCH v3 07/14] gnu: Add Zuo Philip McGrath
2022-08-25 9:12 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-08-25 10:30 ` Efraim Flashner
2022-08-25 20:04 ` Philip McGrath
2022-08-26 12:01 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-08-27 18:08 ` Philip McGrath
2022-08-27 18:58 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-08-27 19:54 ` Philip McGrath
2022-08-27 21:18 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-08-27 21:28 ` Philip McGrath
2022-08-27 22:26 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-08-25 8:54 ` [bug#57050] [PATCH v3 08/14] gnu: racket: Update to 8.6 Philip McGrath
2022-08-25 9:14 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-08-25 10:39 ` Efraim Flashner
2022-08-25 8:54 ` [bug#57050] [PATCH v3 09/14] gnu: chez-scheme: Make bootfiles regular inputs Philip McGrath
2022-08-25 8:54 ` [bug#57050] [PATCH v3 10/14] gnu: chez-scheme-for-racket: Support cross-compilation Philip McGrath
2022-08-25 8:54 ` [bug#57050] [PATCH v3 11/14] gnu: racket: Support cross-compiling the VM packages Philip McGrath
2022-08-25 8:54 ` [bug#57050] [PATCH v3 12/14] gnu: chez-scheme-for-racket: Suport all systems Philip McGrath
2022-08-25 9:24 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-08-25 10:50 ` Efraim Flashner
2022-08-25 20:17 ` Philip McGrath
2022-08-25 8:54 ` [bug#57050] [PATCH v3 13/14] gnu: racket-vm-bc: Add workaround for ppc64le Philip McGrath
2022-08-25 8:54 ` [bug#57050] [PATCH v3 14/14] gnu: racket: Use Racket CS on all systems Philip McGrath
2022-08-25 9:17 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-08-26 21:15 ` [bug#57050] [PATCH v3 00/14] gnu: Update Racket to 8.6. Add Zuo Thiago Jung Bauermann via Guix-patches via
2022-08-27 18:55 ` [bug#57050] [PATCH v4 " Philip McGrath
2022-08-27 18:55 ` [bug#57050] [PATCH v4 01/14] gnu: stex: Update to 1.2.2-2.afa6075 Philip McGrath
2022-08-27 18:55 ` [bug#57050] [PATCH v4 02/14] gnu: stex: Fix read-only gifs and math directories Philip McGrath
2022-08-27 18:55 ` [bug#57050] [PATCH v4 03/14] etc: teams: Add racket team Philip McGrath
2022-08-27 18:55 ` [bug#57050] [PATCH v4 04/14] etc: teams: Add entry for Philip McGrath Philip McGrath
2022-08-27 18:55 ` [bug#57050] [PATCH v4 05/14] gnu: racket: Adjust patch for "/bin/sh" in rktio Philip McGrath
2022-08-27 18:55 ` [bug#57050] [PATCH v4 06/14] gnu: chez-scheme: Fix use of "/bin/sh" Philip McGrath
2022-08-27 18:55 ` [bug#57050] [PATCH v4 07/14] gnu: Add Zuo Philip McGrath
2022-08-27 18:55 ` [bug#57050] [PATCH v4 08/14] gnu: racket: Update to 8.6 Philip McGrath
2022-08-27 19:21 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-08-27 20:30 ` Philip McGrath
2022-08-27 18:55 ` [bug#57050] [PATCH v4 09/14] gnu: chez-scheme: Make bootfiles regular inputs Philip McGrath
2022-08-27 18:55 ` [bug#57050] [PATCH v4 10/14] gnu: chez-scheme-for-racket: Support cross-compilation Philip McGrath
2022-08-27 18:55 ` [bug#57050] [PATCH v4 11/14] gnu: racket: Support cross-compiling the VM packages Philip McGrath
2022-08-27 18:55 ` [bug#57050] [PATCH v4 12/14] gnu: chez-scheme-for-racket: Support all systems Philip McGrath
2022-08-27 18:55 ` [bug#57050] [PATCH v4 13/14] gnu: racket-vm-bc: Add workaround for ppc64le Philip McGrath
2022-08-27 18:55 ` [bug#57050] [PATCH v4 14/14] gnu: racket: Use Racket CS on all systems Philip McGrath
2022-09-04 20:53 ` bug#57050: [PATCH 0/6] gnu: Update Racket to 8.6. Add Zuo Ludovic Courtès
2022-08-11 11:08 ` [bug#57050] [PATCH v2 05/13] gnu: racket: Update to 8.6 Philip McGrath
2022-08-11 11:44 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-08-11 22:40 ` Philip McGrath
2022-08-12 6:34 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-08-22 8:41 ` Efraim Flashner
2022-08-22 18:56 ` Philip McGrath
2022-08-11 11:08 ` [bug#57050] [PATCH v2 06/13] gnu: chez-scheme: Bootfiles should not be native inputs Philip McGrath
2022-08-11 11:47 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-08-11 22:45 ` Philip McGrath
2022-08-12 4:21 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-08-11 11:08 ` [bug#57050] [PATCH v2 07/13] gnu: chez-scheme-for-racket: Support cross-compilation Philip McGrath
2022-08-11 11:56 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-08-11 22:49 ` Philip McGrath
2022-08-11 11:08 ` [bug#57050] [PATCH v2 08/13] gnu: racket: Support cross-compiling the VM packages Philip McGrath
2022-08-11 11:58 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-08-11 23:23 ` Philip McGrath
2022-08-11 11:08 ` [bug#57050] [PATCH v2 09/13] gnu: chez-scheme-for-racket: Suport all systems Philip McGrath
2022-08-11 12:02 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-08-11 23:25 ` Philip McGrath
2022-08-11 11:08 ` [bug#57050] [PATCH v2 10/13] gnu: racket-vm-bc: Add workaround for ppc64le Philip McGrath
2022-08-11 11:08 ` [bug#57050] [PATCH v2 11/13] gnu: racket: Use Racket CS on all systems Philip McGrath
2022-08-11 12:03 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-08-11 11:08 ` [bug#57050] [PATCH v2 12/13] etc: teams: Add racket team Philip McGrath
2022-08-11 12:11 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-08-11 11:08 ` [bug#57050] [PATCH v2 13/13] etc: teams: Add entry for Philip McGrath Philip McGrath
2022-08-13 17:43 ` [bug#57050] [PATCH v2 00/13] gnu: Update Racket to 8.6. Add Zuo Thiago Jung Bauermann via Guix-patches via
2022-08-15 5:47 ` [bug#57050] [RFC PATCH] gnu: racket-vm-cs: Avoid 'configure' bug with '--enable-racket' Philip McGrath
2022-08-15 6:12 ` Philip McGrath
2022-08-15 19:54 ` [bug#57050] [RFC PATCH v2] gnu: racket: Backport fix for powerpc64le Philip McGrath
2022-08-19 0:51 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann via Guix-patches via
2022-08-19 10:10 ` Maxime Devos
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