Re: Re-approaching package tagging

[Catonano <catonano@gmail.com>]

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Il giorno mar 18 dic 2018 alle ore 08:48 Catonano <catonano@gmail.com> ha
scritto:

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> Il giorno lun 17 dic 2018 alle ore 22:10 swedebugia <swedebugia@riseup.net>
> ha scritto:
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>> Hi :)
>>
>> On 2018-12-17 20:01, Christopher Lemmer Webber wrote:
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > In the past when we've discussed package tagging, I think Ludo' has been
>> > against it, primarily because it's a giant source of bikeshedding.  I
>> > agree that it's a huge space for bikeshedding... no space provides more
>> > bikeshedding than naming things, and tagging things is a many to many
>> > naming system.
>> >
>> > However, I will say that finding packages based on topical interest is
>> > pretty hard right now.  If I want to find all the available roguelikes:
>> >
>> > cwebber@jasmine:~$ guix package -A rogue
>> > hyperrogue    10.5    out     gnu/packages/games.scm:3652:2
>> > roguebox-adventures   2.2.1   out     gnu/packages/games.scm:1047:2
>> >
>> > Hm, that's strange, there's definitely more roguelikes that should show
>> > up than that!  A more specific search is even worse:
>> >
>> > cwebber@jasmine:~$ guix package -A roguelike
>> > cwebber@jasmine:~$
>> >
>> > What I should have gotten back:
>> >   - angband
>> >   - cataclysm-dda
>> >   - crawl
>> >   - crawl-tiles
>> >   - hyperrogue
>> >   - nethack
>> >   - roguebox-adventures
>> >   - tome4
>> >
>> > So I only got 1/4 of the entries I was interested in in my first query.
>> > Too bad!
>> >
>> > I get that we're opening up space for bikeshedding and *that's true*.
>> > But it seems like not doing so makes things hard on users.
>> >
>> > What do you think?  Is there a way to open the (pandora's?) box of tags
>> > safely?
>>
>> Yes and no.
>>
>> Pjotr and I have discussed this relating to biotech software. He said
>> that many scientists have a hard time finding the right tools for the job.
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>> I proposed tight integration with wikidata[1] (every software in the
>> world will eventually have an item there) and Guix (QID on every package
>> and lookup/catogory integration) and leave all the categorizing to them.
>> Ha problem sidestepped, they are bikeshedding experts over there in
>> wikiland! :D
>>
>> The advantage of this is that everyone using wikidata (every package
>> manager) could pull the same categorization so we only do it once in a
>> central
>>
>> What do you think?
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> There is also the Free Software Directory
> https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Main_Page
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> I don't know what the relationship between Wikidata and the FSD is
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> Does Wikidata import data from the FSD ? Or viceversa ?
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There happens to be this thread on their mailing list, I think it's
relevant (the whole thread is interesting)

https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/directory-discuss/2018-11/msg00000.html

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