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From: Katherine Cox-Buday <cox.katherine.e@gmail.com>
To: guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: What is the philosophy behind shepherd?
Date: Sat, 06 Apr 2019 14:30:07 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87o95jlyo0.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)

I must preface this email with the assurance that there is no agenda
behind my questions; only ignorance and curiosity. Please read it with
that in mind!

A couple weeks ago, I was watching a video called "The Tragedy of
Systemd"[1]. In it, Benno Rice discusses the need for a so-called
"system layer" which is responding to the many complicated signals
coming into a system from thing happening (e.g. networks becoming
available/unavailable, VPNs mucking with DNS and routing tables, etc.).
He characterizes systemd and things like it as something that lives
between kernel-space and user-space.

It really opened my eyes to why something like systemd exists rather
than sticking with the old-style init systems.

Does Shepherd take the stance that it is, or is to become a "system
layer"?

If so, one of the criticisms he has for systemd is that instead of
pulling in protocols for things (e.g. DNS), and allowing best-of-breed
software to handle the implementation, it has pulled in the
responsibility for implementation as well. Any thoughts on that?

[1] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_AIw9bGogo
-- 
Katherine

             reply	other threads:[~2019-04-06 19:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-04-06 19:30 Katherine Cox-Buday [this message]
2019-04-06 21:02 ` What is the philosophy behind shepherd? znavko
2019-04-06 21:21   ` Katherine Cox-Buday
2019-04-07  8:08   ` znavko
2019-04-06 23:08 ` Christopher Lemmer Webber
2019-04-07 13:35   ` Pjotr Prins
2019-04-07 17:52 ` Adam Pribyl
2019-04-08  9:25 ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-04-11  1:21 ` Danny Milosavljevic

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