From: Xinglu Chen <public@yoctocell.xyz>
To: Leo Famulari <leo@famulari.name>
Cc: "Christopher Baines via Development of GNU Guix and the GNU
System distribution." <guix-devel@gnu.org>,
Sarah Morgensen <iskarian@mgsn.dev>
Subject: Re: Can we find a better idiom for unversioned packages?
Date: Fri, 03 Sep 2021 18:11:46 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87o899iqpp.fsf@yoctocell.xyz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YTEKDcTtz72i7LEk@jasmine.lan>
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On Thu, Sep 02 2021, Leo Famulari wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 02, 2021 at 12:51:58PM -0400, Leo Famulari wrote:
>> On Wed, Sep 01, 2021 at 06:50:36PM +0200, Xinglu Chen wrote:
>> > > Commit dates don't have a consistent meaning: are they the time of
>> > > first revision of a commit? Final revision of a commit? Time of
>> > > signing? Pushing? They are often useful to estimate a timeline, but
>> > > it's common for a Git "timeline" to jump back and forth by months or a
>> > > year due to long-running development branches being merged in, or due
>> > > to a "commit and then polish by rebasing" workflow.
>> >
>> > I would say the the time of the final commit would be the best option,
>> > but I agree that it can be ambiguous.
>
> Reading your message again, I think you misunderstood what I wrote.
>
> I wasn't asking what date we should choose to include in our package
> versions. I was asking, "What does the Git commit timestamp describe?"
> And the answer is that there is not a clear answer, and it depends on
> the workflow of the person who made the Git commit. My point being that
> a Git repo does not offer us meaningful information about when anything
> happened.
The date does give an idea of how old the version is, compare that to a
random string of 7 characters. If a user wants to know the exact
commit, they can always just run ‘guix edit PACKAGE’ and check the
‘commit’ field in the source of the package.
From a Guix developer’s perspective, one can get an idea of roughly how
old a package is when looking at the package definition. E.g., a few
months ago, when Magit hadn’t a release for around 2 years or so, I
wanted to see how old our current ‘emacs-magit’ package was. To do that
I had to ‘guix edit emacs-magit’, then find the commit-id and copy it,
then go to my local checkout of Magit and run ‘git log COMMIT-ID’, just
to see how old the version was. If the date of the commit was encoded
in the version string, I would immediately see that its 6 months old or
something; no need to manually look up the commit-id.
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Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-08-31 19:57 Can we find a better idiom for unversioned packages? Sarah Morgensen
2021-08-31 21:20 ` Maxime Devos
2021-09-01 12:11 ` Xinglu Chen
2021-09-01 16:29 ` Maxime Devos
2021-09-01 13:33 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2021-09-01 16:39 ` Maxime Devos
2021-09-01 18:34 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2021-09-02 14:09 ` Maxime Devos
2021-09-02 14:20 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2021-09-02 14:34 ` Maxime Devos
2021-09-01 19:48 ` Jonathan McHugh
2021-09-01 21:47 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2021-09-02 13:32 ` Maxime Devos
2021-09-02 7:53 ` Jonathan McHugh
2021-09-02 9:25 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2021-09-01 10:55 ` Xinglu Chen
2021-09-01 15:37 ` Leo Famulari
2021-09-01 16:50 ` Xinglu Chen
2021-09-02 16:51 ` Leo Famulari
2021-09-02 17:29 ` Leo Famulari
2021-09-03 16:11 ` Xinglu Chen [this message]
2021-09-03 16:35 ` Leo Famulari
2021-09-03 16:57 ` Leo Famulari
2021-09-03 20:03 ` Xinglu Chen
2021-09-04 21:00 ` Leo Famulari
2021-09-08 21:15 ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-09-02 17:08 ` Leo Famulari
2021-09-08 21:28 ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-09-08 22:21 ` Jonathan McHugh
2021-09-08 22:38 ` Leo Famulari
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2021-09-03 5:51 Sarah Morgensen
2021-09-03 21:14 Sarah Morgensen
2021-09-03 22:11 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2021-09-04 12:32 ` Taylan Kammer
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