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From: Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@gmail.com>
To: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>
Cc: 61894@debbugs.gnu.org,  guix-devel <guix-devel@gnu.org>,
	guix-maintainers@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [bug#61894] [PATCH RFC] Team approval for patches
Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2023 10:48:10 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87h6ux285h.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <878rgga1qv.fsf@inria.fr> ("Ludovic Courtès"'s message of "Wed, 01 Mar 2023 17:13:28 +0100")

Hi Ludovic,

Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org> writes:

> Hello Guix!
>
> The project has been steadily gaining new contributors, which is great,
> and I think we need to adjust our processes accordingly.
>
> Currently teams are described mostly as pools of people who can mentor
> contributors in a particular area and who can review patches in that
> area.  My proposal is to give teams formal approval power over changes
> to code in their area.
>
> This is sorta happening already, but informally: if a non-committer
> sends a patch, someone from the team eventually “approves” it by pushing
> it.  Within a team, the situation is different: people usually discuss
> changes, and the submitter (also committer) eventually pushes them;
> sometimes, the submitter pushes changes without getting approval (or
> feedback) from others on the team.
>
> With the proposed policy, members of a team would also have to review
> and approve each other’s work.  Formal approval means getting an
> explicit “LGTM” (or similar) from at least one other team member.
>
> This is similar to the review thresholds found on GitLab & co., where
> project admins can specify a minimum number of approvals required before
> a change is marked as ready.  I think it avoids the unavoidable
> misunderstandings that can arise in a growing group and help pacify
> day-to-day collaboration.
>
> Below is a suggested change.
>
> What do people think?
>
> Ludo’.

It sounds reasonable and a good change "on paper", but in practice I
think it may be too soon to formalize teams that way.  Teams are a
nascent concept which hasn't reached a point we can rely on it, in my
opinion.  We are still ironing out kinks in the tools [0] :-).  I'd
prefer we stay as nimble/agile as we can and maximize the potential of
our large committers pool for now, at the expense of sometimes having to
retroactively discussing/fixing up or reverting some change that wasn't
up to par, that could have possibly been caught by a more focused team.

[0] https://issues.guix.gnu.org/58813

-- 
Thanks,
Maxim


  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-03-06 15:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-03-01 16:13 [bug#61894] [PATCH RFC] Team approval for patches Ludovic Courtès
2023-03-01 17:15 ` Christopher Baines
2023-03-01 17:59   ` Björn Höfling
2023-03-01 18:17     ` Christopher Baines
2023-03-01 19:21   ` Felix Lechner via Guix-patches via
2023-03-01 22:45   ` Ludovic Courtès
2023-03-02 11:04     ` Andreas Enge
2023-03-02 13:57       ` bug#61894: " bokr
2023-03-03  1:08       ` 宋文武
2023-03-07  1:53     ` [bug#61894] " 宋文武 via Guix-patches via
2023-03-07 10:36       ` bug#61894: " Andreas Enge
2023-03-07 12:22         ` Simon Tournier
2023-03-07 18:29           ` [bug#61894] " Maxim Cournoyer
2023-03-07 22:40             ` Leo Famulari
2023-03-08 18:58               ` bug#61894: " Maxim Cournoyer
2023-03-09  8:48                 ` [bug#61894] " Simon Tournier
2023-03-08  9:12             ` bug#61894: " Efraim Flashner
2023-03-08 17:05               ` Maxim Cournoyer
2023-03-08 23:38                 ` Vagrant Cascadian
2023-03-09  5:12                   ` Maxim Cournoyer
2023-03-09  9:46                 ` Simon Tournier
2023-03-10  4:36                   ` Maxim Cournoyer
2023-03-10 17:22                     ` Ludovic Courtès
2023-03-10 18:22                       ` Felix Lechner via Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution.
2023-03-12  2:33                         ` Maxim Cournoyer
2023-03-12 11:14                           ` Simon Tournier
2023-03-12  3:26                       ` Maxim Cournoyer
2023-03-12 11:52                         ` Andreas Enge
2023-03-13  0:08                           ` Maxim Cournoyer
2023-03-12 12:25                         ` Simon Tournier
2023-03-15 16:08                         ` Ludovic Courtès
2023-03-17 15:46                           ` [bug#61894] " Maxim Cournoyer
2023-03-10 14:19                   ` bug#61894: " Andreas Enge
2023-03-10 17:33                     ` Simon Tournier
2023-03-10 23:19                       ` Andreas Enge
2023-03-11 13:20                         ` Simon Tournier
2023-03-07 15:21         ` Felix Lechner via Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution.
2023-03-06 15:48 ` Maxim Cournoyer [this message]
2023-03-06 21:42   ` [bug#61894] " Ludovic Courtès
2023-06-02 13:50 ` bug#61894: " Ludovic Courtès

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