From: Andreas Enge <andreas@enge.fr>
To: Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@gmail.com>
Cc: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>,
"Simon Tournier" <zimon.toutoune@gmail.com>,
宋文武 <iyzsong@envs.net>, "Christopher Baines" <mail@cbaines.net>,
guix-devel@gnu.org, 61894@debbugs.gnu.org,
guix-maintainers@gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#61894: [PATCH RFC] Team approval for patches
Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2023 12:52:02 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZA284rQzrILBLDhv@jurong> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87356ar6p1.fsf@gmail.com>
Hello,
Am Sat, Mar 11, 2023 at 10:26:18PM -0500 schrieb Maxim Cournoyer:
> Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org> writes:
> > I hope the maintainer team can help make teams “more functional”,
> > whatever that teams. It’s really what maintainership is about in Guix;
> > it’s not about writing code.
> I'm happy to help with the effort, but I don't think it's particularly
> relevant to Guix co-maintainers more than anyone else interested in
> advancing/contributing to Guix, and I find it great that it's this way
> (not out of laziness, but because the talent pool of the whole Guix
> community is much larger that that of us 4 co-maintainers). Per what we
> co-maintainers signed up for in [1], the co-maintainers three primary
> duties are:
but there is also
"Looking after people: making sure to promote people who are very involved
in leadership position; dubbing new committers, new maintainers, new
members of the spending committee. Supporting new initiatives. Generally
trying to make sure everyone’s happy. :-)"
As for all "management positions" (even if we may not like the term here
as it often evokes a hierarchy; maybe "board members of a non-profit"
captures the idea better), I think the maintainers' role is more about
moderating ("animer" in French, which I think is more to the point),
keeping the overview, overseeing and facilitating initiatives, making sure
the project moves on, etc., than day to day work on details, or the three
technical points you mention (and which probably hardly ever require
action).
Maybe it would be time to move on to something like the Debian Social
Contract and concrete rules how membership, commit rights, maintainer
roles in the Guix project are bestowed and what is expected from people
fulfilling such roles.
Andreas
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-03-12 11:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-03-01 16:13 [bug#61894] [PATCH RFC] Team approval for patches Ludovic Courtès
2023-03-01 17:15 ` Christopher Baines
2023-03-01 17:59 ` Björn Höfling
2023-03-01 18:17 ` Christopher Baines
2023-03-01 19:21 ` Felix Lechner via Guix-patches via
2023-03-01 22:45 ` Ludovic Courtès
2023-03-02 11:04 ` Andreas Enge
2023-03-02 13:57 ` bug#61894: " bokr
2023-03-03 1:08 ` 宋文武
2023-03-07 1:53 ` [bug#61894] " 宋文武 via Guix-patches via
2023-03-07 10:36 ` bug#61894: " Andreas Enge
2023-03-07 12:22 ` Simon Tournier
2023-03-07 18:29 ` [bug#61894] " Maxim Cournoyer
2023-03-07 22:40 ` Leo Famulari
2023-03-08 18:58 ` bug#61894: " Maxim Cournoyer
2023-03-09 8:48 ` [bug#61894] " Simon Tournier
2023-03-08 9:12 ` bug#61894: " Efraim Flashner
2023-03-08 17:05 ` Maxim Cournoyer
2023-03-08 23:38 ` Vagrant Cascadian
2023-03-09 5:12 ` Maxim Cournoyer
2023-03-09 9:46 ` Simon Tournier
2023-03-10 4:36 ` Maxim Cournoyer
2023-03-10 17:22 ` Ludovic Courtès
2023-03-10 18:22 ` Felix Lechner via Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution.
2023-03-12 2:33 ` Maxim Cournoyer
2023-03-12 11:14 ` Simon Tournier
2023-03-12 3:26 ` Maxim Cournoyer
2023-03-12 11:52 ` Andreas Enge [this message]
2023-03-13 0:08 ` Maxim Cournoyer
2023-03-12 12:25 ` Simon Tournier
2023-03-15 16:08 ` Ludovic Courtès
2023-03-17 15:46 ` [bug#61894] " Maxim Cournoyer
2023-03-10 14:19 ` bug#61894: " Andreas Enge
2023-03-10 17:33 ` Simon Tournier
2023-03-10 23:19 ` Andreas Enge
2023-03-11 13:20 ` Simon Tournier
2023-03-07 15:21 ` Felix Lechner via Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution.
2023-03-06 15:48 ` [bug#61894] " Maxim Cournoyer
2023-03-06 21:42 ` Ludovic Courtès
2023-06-02 13:50 ` bug#61894: " Ludovic Courtès
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2023-03-13 16:30 Peter Polidoro
2023-03-14 15:58 ` Maxim Cournoyer
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
List information: https://guix.gnu.org/
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=ZA284rQzrILBLDhv@jurong \
--to=andreas@enge.fr \
--cc=61894@debbugs.gnu.org \
--cc=guix-devel@gnu.org \
--cc=guix-maintainers@gnu.org \
--cc=iyzsong@envs.net \
--cc=ludo@gnu.org \
--cc=mail@cbaines.net \
--cc=maxim.cournoyer@gmail.com \
--cc=zimon.toutoune@gmail.com \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
Code repositories for project(s) associated with this public inbox
https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/guix.git
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for read-only IMAP folder(s) and NNTP newsgroup(s).