* Updating Guix package manager on Debian-based systems
@ 2017-10-03 10:24 David Seaward
2017-10-04 14:25 ` Ludovic Courtès
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From: David Seaward @ 2017-10-03 10:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: guix-devel
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Hi all,
Previous discussion suggested that Guix (the package manager)
could not be included in Debian (and therefore derivatives) due
to technical policy. As a Debian-derivative user (PureOS and
sometimes Ubuntu) I'd still like a convenient way to try out and
recommend Guix to others. That is, more convenient than the (very
thorough) instructions at
https://www.gnu.org/software/guix/manual/html_node/Binary-Installation.html
I think this hinges on how to get updates once Guix is installed.
If Guix can perform updates itself (including system
re-configuration as required), then a one-off first-time script
for Debian-based systems would be sufficient. I'm going to
(slowly) try my hand at this as time permits.
But, if Guix can't update itself or can't perform configuration
changes on a parent Debian system (should the need arise), then a
deb package is definitely more suitable. Delivering it in a deb
repository (rather than just offering a deb file to download)
would be best, because then users would get updates easily. For
the user it would be as simple as this...
sudo add-apt-repository 'deb https://magical.unicorn/repos/guix
stable main'
# maybe some command here for a key
sudo apt update
sudo apt install guix
Of course, someone would need to keep packaging guix as a deb,
build the debs and push them to https://magical.unicorn/repos --
it wasn't clear to me if this kind of effort is feasible?
Regards,
David
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* Re: Updating Guix package manager on Debian-based systems
2017-10-03 10:24 Updating Guix package manager on Debian-based systems David Seaward
@ 2017-10-04 14:25 ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-10-08 15:38 ` Adonay Felipe Nogueira
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From: Ludovic Courtès @ 2017-10-04 14:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: David Seaward; +Cc: guix-devel
Hello,
David Seaward <dseaward925@gmail.com> skribis:
> But, if Guix can't update itself or can't perform configuration
> changes on a parent Debian system (should the need arise), then a
> deb package is definitely more suitable. Delivering it in a deb
> repository (rather than just offering a deb file to download)
> would be best, because then users would get updates easily. For
> the user it would be as simple as this...
Guix can update itself. There are two components: each user’s Guix, and
guix-daemon (installed as root). For the latter, you need to:
# guix pull
# guix package -u guix
For the former, each user should run ‘guix pull’.
HTH,
Ludo’.
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* Re: Updating Guix package manager on Debian-based systems
2017-10-04 14:25 ` Ludovic Courtès
@ 2017-10-08 15:38 ` Adonay Felipe Nogueira
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From: Adonay Felipe Nogueira @ 2017-10-08 15:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: guix-devel
Just for clarity: "# " means it must be run as root.
Generally, you woould want to update/pull and upgrade guix as root
first. When done, then do the same for everyone that *does* have a Guix
profile enabled.
ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès) writes:
> Hello,
>
>
> Guix can update itself. There are two components: each user’s Guix, and
> guix-daemon (installed as root). For the latter, you need to:
>
> # guix pull
> # guix package -u guix
>
> For the former, each user should run ‘guix pull’.
>
> HTH,
> Ludo’.
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