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From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès)
To: John Darrington <john@darrington.wattle.id.au>
Cc: Guix-devel <guix-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] gnu: Add Biopython.
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2015 15:16:36 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <877ftcw6vf.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150416130209.GA668@jocasta.intra> (John Darrington's message of "Thu, 16 Apr 2015 15:02:09 +0200")

John Darrington <john@darrington.wattle.id.au> skribis:

> On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 11:00:30AM +0200, Andreas Enge wrote:
>      
>      It starts like this:
>      "Permission to use, copy, modify, and distribute this software and its
>      documentation with or without modifications and for any purpose and
>      without fee is hereby granted"
>      
>      Does the provision "without fee" make it non-free?
>      
> I don't think it does.
>
> From a native English speaker's perspective, I think it is free.  It 
> says "for any purpose".    Ipso facto, "any purpose" embraces for the purpose
> of pecuniary gain through charges for distribution.
>
> The important words are: "Permission ... without fee ... is hereby granted."
> In other words, the licensor does not demand a fee before granting that permission.
> If it had said "Permission ... upon payment of fee ... will be granted". Then that
> would have made the thing non-free.

Oooh.  IOW “without fee” applies to “Permission”, not to “to use, copy,
modify, and distribute”, right?

That makes sense.  I think I was fooled in the past by similar wording.

Does it sound like 100% non-ambiguous to native speakers reading here?

Thanks,
Ludo’.

  reply	other threads:[~2015-04-16 13:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-04-15 15:47 [PATCH] gnu: Add Biopython Ricardo Wurmus
2015-04-15 19:55 ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-04-16  8:46   ` Ricardo Wurmus
2015-04-16  9:00     ` Andreas Enge
2015-04-16 12:36       ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-04-16 13:10         ` Ricardo Wurmus
2015-04-18 16:01           ` Ricardo Wurmus
2015-04-18 17:28             ` Andreas Enge
2015-04-16 13:02       ` John Darrington
2015-04-16 13:16         ` Ludovic Courtès [this message]
2015-04-16 15:40           ` Andreas Enge

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