From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?=) Subject: Re: [PATCH] gnu: Add Biopython. Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2015 15:16:36 +0200 Message-ID: <877ftcw6vf.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87618xyxmq.fsf@gnu.org> <20150416090030.GA18083@debian> <20150416130209.GA668@jocasta.intra> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34954) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yijew-0002sr-Iq for guix-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Apr 2015 09:16:47 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yijes-0000kd-7D for guix-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Apr 2015 09:16:46 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:59923) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yijes-0000kZ-4r for guix-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Apr 2015 09:16:42 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20150416130209.GA668@jocasta.intra> (John Darrington's message of "Thu, 16 Apr 2015 15:02:09 +0200") List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: John Darrington Cc: Guix-devel John Darrington skribis: > On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 11:00:30AM +0200, Andreas Enge wrote: >=20=20=20=20=20=20 > It starts like this: > "Permission to use, copy, modify, and distribute this software and i= ts > documentation with or without modifications and for any purpose and > without fee is hereby granted" >=20=20=20=20=20=20 > Does the provision "without fee" make it non-free? >=20=20=20=20=20=20 > I don't think it does. > > From a native English speaker's perspective, I think it is free. It=20 > says "for any purpose". Ipso facto, "any purpose" embraces for the pur= pose > of pecuniary gain through charges for distribution. > > The important words are: "Permission ... without fee ... is hereby grante= d." > In other words, the licensor does not demand a fee before granting that p= ermission. > If it had said "Permission ... upon payment of fee ... will be granted". = Then that > would have made the thing non-free. Oooh. IOW =E2=80=9Cwithout fee=E2=80=9D applies to =E2=80=9CPermission=E2= =80=9D, not to =E2=80=9Cto use, copy, modify, and distribute=E2=80=9D, right? That makes sense. I think I was fooled in the past by similar wording. Does it sound like 100% non-ambiguous to native speakers reading here? Thanks, Ludo=E2=80=99.