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From: Simon Josefsson via "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." <guix-devel@gnu.org>
To: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>
Cc: Vagrant Cascadian <vagrant@debian.org>,
	 guix-devel@gnu.org,  Luis Felipe <luis.felipe.la@protonmail.com>
Subject: Re: advanced?
Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2023 13:02:42 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <871qo3difx.fsf@josefsson.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <874jt65zux.fsf@gnu.org> ("Ludovic Courtès"'s message of "Wed, 04 Jan 2023 12:00:06 +0100")

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Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org> writes:

> Hello,
>
> (Cc: Luis, for the web site design.)
>
> Simon Josefsson <simon@josefsson.org> skribis:
>
>> Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org> writes:
>>
>>> Or if we do want to explain more, then perhaps we need a list of
>>> features that would also include things like Docker/VM image generation,
>>> declarative home environments, etc.  But that’s broader topic.
>>
>> Yes, that makes sense.  I'm not the best person to summarize it, but
>> starting pointers if someone wants to take it further:
>>
>> * Dedication to free software goals and the GNU community
>>
>> * Shepherd init system written in Guile
>>
>> * Declarative stateless system configurations
>>
>> * Transactional upgrades and roll-backs
>>
>> * Reproducible build environments
>>
>> * Designed towards bootstrappable builds
>>
>> Maybe this fits better directly in the Introduction section of the
>> manual?  https://guix.gnu.org/manual/en/html_node/Introduction.html
>
> I guess we should rework the “Introduction” and “Features” sections,
> which were written in the early days.
>
> The points you list above are a great starting point, and I guess that
> would also be a good fit for the front page; currently there’s no
> “feature list” there.  That old “Guix in action” video also ought to be
> replaced.

Reflecting on the feature list, I think we should mention that Guix is a
_rolling_ distribution and package manager, and maybe explain what that
means.  I don't think this is clear from the web site or manual now, but
I may be missing it.

Perhaps the release and update model of Guix could use some dedicated
new documentation?  The relationship between the rolling master branch,
the core-updates branch, the security graft mechanism, the substitute
build servers and the versioned installer releases is not terribly clear
to me as a new user, and having an understanding of these concepts helps
to make contributions.  I have a feeling there may be more nuances that
are useful to know about that I'm not familiar with; for example, the
intended use of the version-X.Y.Z branches.

/Simon

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  reply	other threads:[~2023-01-09 13:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-11-26 21:47 advanced? Simon Josefsson via Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution.
2022-11-27  8:51 ` advanced? Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-11-27 12:39 ` advanced? zimoun
2022-11-27 17:22 ` advanced? Ryan Prior
2022-11-27 18:35 ` advanced? Vagrant Cascadian
2022-11-28 11:18   ` advanced? Ludovic Courtès
2022-11-28 14:44     ` advanced? Simon Josefsson via Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution.
2022-11-28 18:36       ` advanced? zimoun
2023-01-04 11:00       ` advanced? Ludovic Courtès
2023-01-09 12:02         ` Simon Josefsson via Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution. [this message]
2022-11-28 15:35   ` advanced? Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
2023-01-04 10:54 ` advanced? Ludovic Courtès
2023-01-09 11:12   ` advanced? Ludovic Courtès
2023-01-09 11:37     ` advanced? Julien Lepiller

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