Re: The way to promote GUIX package manager

[Yasuaki Kudo <yasu@yasuaki.com>]

Well I have to tell you I am not too familiar with either Debian or Guix😅  So with that disclaimer:

- If I remember correctly, Guix in Debian just doesn't work straight away after apt-get install, meaning enabling of certain Guix services also required?

- He needs to have everything that Guix needs "virtualized", including the folder /gnu straight under root, (under some /home/xyzuser/blah/ directory I presume).   He does not care about Guix-as-container - he needs Guix-to-be-contained.

Again, I don't know much, Im' just a casual Guix OS user (and I love it 😄) but does it make sense?

-Yasu


> On Jan 27, 2022, at 07:46, Ricardo Wurmus <rekado@elephly.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> Yasuaki Kudo <yasu@yasuaki.com> writes:
> 
>> Does Guix really run out of the box in Debian?
>> 
>> I have never tried it but my friend Debian expert friend keeps telling me that:
>> 
>> * Just apt-get installing Guix doesn't work
> 
> How does “apt install guix” not work?  There’s an older version of Guix
> in Debian.  After installing it “guix pull” should get the latest
> version and it all works.
> 
> There’s also an installer script at https://guix.gnu.org/install.sh
> which skips the detour through apt and gets you the latest release
> directly.
> 
>> * and his really big complaint is evidently he creates "virtual
>> environments" (short of full-on VMware, I imagine it is an assortment
>> of Linux native tricks that are wrapped by tools like Docker) for
>> every OS he tries but
>> * Evidently the same tricks don't work with Guix
> 
> Is this not *exactly* what “guix shell” (formerly “guix enviromnent”)
> does?  “guix shell -C” enters a container, even, using the same Linux
> namespace mechanism that Docker wraps.
> 
>> * He does not want to try full blown Guix OS without first testing it in above ways
> 
> Guix can comfortably be used outside of Guix System.  And you can
> *still* use most “guix system” commands, e.g. to build containers or
> virtual machines.
> 
> -- 
> Ricardo