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From: Yasuaki Kudo <yasu@yasuaki.com>
To: Bengt Richter <bokr@bokr.com>
Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org, "Sławomir Lach" <slawek@lach.art.pl>
Subject: Re: The way to promote GUIX package manager
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2022 08:55:45 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <74A2150B-885B-492A-8FD0-26E85FD757A2@yasuaki.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220127233546.GA12407@LionPure>

This is a comment from a very different angle - another way to promote Guix is in the emerging (so I would like to believe 😅) worker cooperatives sector - there is a call for democratically directed software development (not in the do-o-cracy way that happens due to information asymmetry between "producers" and "consumers")

GNU Guix can offer maximum transparency and user friendliness 😄

-Yasu


> On Jan 28, 2022, at 08:36, Bengt Richter <bokr@bokr.com> wrote:
> 
> On +2022-01-26 23:42:05 +0100, Ricardo Wurmus wrote:
>> 
>> Yasuaki Kudo <yasu@yasuaki.com> writes:
>> 
>>> Does Guix really run out of the box in Debian?
>>> 
>>> I have never tried it but my friend Debian expert friend keeps telling me that:
>>> 
>>> * Just apt-get installing Guix doesn't work
>> 
>> How does “apt install guix” not work?  There’s an older version of Guix
>> in Debian.  After installing it “guix pull” should get the latest
>> version and it all works.
>> 
> 
> What does "apt search guix" produce?
> (Nothing, on the puri.sm variant of debian. They maintain a custom
> pool based on debian minus what they want to exclude AIUI)
> 
>> There’s also an installer script at https://guix.gnu.org/install.sh
>> which skips the detour through apt and gets you the latest release
>> directly.
>> 
>>> * and his really big complaint is evidently he creates "virtual
>>> environments" (short of full-on VMware, I imagine it is an assortment
>>> of Linux native tricks that are wrapped by tools like Docker) for
>>> every OS he tries but
>>> * Evidently the same tricks don't work with Guix
>> 
>> Is this not *exactly* what “guix shell” (formerly “guix enviromnent”)
>> does?  “guix shell -C” enters a container, even, using the same Linux
>> namespace mechanism that Docker wraps.
>> 
>>> * He does not want to try full blown Guix OS without first testing it in above ways
>> 
>> Guix can comfortably be used outside of Guix System.  And you can
>> *still* use most “guix system” commands, e.g. to build containers or
>> virtual machines.
>> 
>> -- 
>> Ricardo
>> 
> 
> -- 
> Regards,
> Bengt Richter


  reply	other threads:[~2022-01-27 23:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-01-26 11:09 The way to promote GUIX package manager Sławomir Lach
2022-01-26 21:38 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2022-01-26 22:40   ` Yasuaki Kudo
2022-01-26 22:42     ` Ricardo Wurmus
2022-01-26 23:15       ` Yasuaki Kudo
2022-01-27 23:35       ` Bengt Richter
2022-01-27 23:55         ` Yasuaki Kudo [this message]
2022-01-28  1:43         ` David Pirotte
2022-01-28 14:48           ` Bengt Richter
2022-01-26 23:38     ` Vagrant Cascadian
2022-02-05 13:54       ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-02-05 20:39         ` Ricardo Wurmus
2022-02-06 18:54           ` Vagrant Cascadian
2022-02-06 19:19             ` Ricardo Wurmus
2022-02-14 17:23           ` Ludovic Courtès

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