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From: Ulf Herrman <striness@tilde.club>
To: Ulf Herrman <striness@tilde.club>
Cc: Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@gmail.com>, 65665@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#65665: [PATCH] Really get all the implicit inputs.
Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2023 22:47:04 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87zg0v3xhj.fsf@tilde.club> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <874jj45hhl.fsf@tilde.club> (Ulf Herrman's message of "Fri, 06 Oct 2023 02:37:26 -0500")

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Ulf Herrman <striness@tilde.club> writes:

> Anyway, I've since forgotten exactly what happened and why (I didn't
> actually write the commit message until quite some time later), but I
> do know that this patch fixed it.
>
> I might try to rediscover what the problem was later, but thought it
> would be good to make you aware of this so as to hopefully consolidate
> world rebuilds.

I've since done some more checking to recall what the problem actually
was, and it indeed manifested as a combination of an icecat and mesa
problem: the wrap-program phase of icecat-minimal uses
`this-package-input' to get the mesa to point LD_LIBRARY_PATH to.
However, it then stuffs the resulting package inside a <file-append>
object, which we don't currently recurse through, so it ends up
compiling with one mesa and using another at runtime, which somehow
causes a segmentation fault.

Having looked at it again, I'm not sure that rebinding `this-package' is
the best solution - it's certainly not a general solution, since any old
package could be shoved into a <file-append> object (or really any
declarative file-like object) and thereby be hidden from
transformations.  My understanding is that packaging guidelines already
discourage directly substituting top-level package references,
preferring instead tools like `this-package-input' so as to work nicely
with transformations.  If those guidelines are adhered to, the
aforementioned patch should fix issues of this nature.  I'm not sure
what the best way of handling objects like <file-append> and such is,
but as long as package references go through `this-package', it should
only matter for implicit inputs, and I don't think any of them use
declarative file-like objects other than <package>.

After thinking about it some more, I think it would be good if we had a
way of testing to make sure that every package is "transformable": that
is, if you apply a deep transformation to it, and lower the result to a
derivation, at no point within the dynamic extent of that lowering is a
derivation from an untransformed package introduced.  This would allow
for testing for transformability en masse, and could be added to 'guix
lint'.

- Ulf

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  reply	other threads:[~2023-10-07  3:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-08-31 20:14 bug#65665: package-mapping with #:deep? #t doesn't get all the implicit inputs Ulf Herrman
2023-09-01 18:08 ` Csepp
2023-09-03 13:02 ` Maxim Cournoyer
2023-09-05 14:57 ` Simon Tournier
2023-09-16  9:45 ` bug#65665: [PATCH] Really " Ulf Herrman
2023-10-06  2:36   ` Maxim Cournoyer
2023-10-06  7:37     ` Ulf Herrman
2023-10-07  3:47       ` Ulf Herrman [this message]
2023-10-12 13:47       ` bug#65665: package-mapping with #:deep? #t doesn't " Ludovic Courtès
2023-10-12  7:07     ` bug#65665: [PATCH] Really " Ludovic Courtès
2023-10-12 14:22     ` Simon Tournier
2023-10-12 14:06   ` bug#65665: package-mapping with #:deep? #t doesn't " Ludovic Courtès
2023-10-12 16:00     ` Maxim Cournoyer
2023-10-14 14:47       ` Ludovic Courtès
2023-10-13  3:11     ` Ulf Herrman
2023-10-14 15:18       ` Ludovic Courtès
2023-10-15  7:12         ` Ulf Herrman
2023-10-21 14:31           ` Ludovic Courtès
2023-10-21 22:22             ` Ulf Herrman
2023-10-23 13:53               ` Simon Tournier
2023-10-12 13:53 ` Ludovic Courtès
2023-10-12 15:53   ` Maxim Cournoyer
2023-10-13  1:49     ` Ulf Herrman

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