From: Andrew Tropin <andrew@trop.in>
To: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>
Cc: 52808@debbugs.gnu.org, Nick Zalutskiy <nick@const.fun>
Subject: bug#52808: Guix home should not assume that all targets are dot files
Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2022 11:10:54 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <878rutzo1d.fsf@trop.in> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87o83t9mf8.fsf@gnu.org>
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On 2022-01-30 18:13, Ludovic Courtès wrote:
> Hi Andrew,
>
> Andrew Tropin <andrew@trop.in> skribis:
>
>> On 2021-12-26 12:17, Nick Zalutskiy wrote:
>>
>>> The following configuration results in a `~/.run` symlink being
>>> created. My expectation is that a `~/run` symlink is created
>>> instead. (ie. not a dotfile)
>>
>> Some how I missed it and not documented home-files-service-type in the
>> manual, I'll add it soon. Thank you for mentioning it. It should break
>> this expectation :)
>>
>>>> (home-environment
>>>> (services
>>>> (list (service
>>>> home-bash-service-type
>>>> (home-bash-configuration
>>>> (guix-defaults? #t)))
>>>> (simple-service 'my-files
>>>> home-files-service-type
>>>> `(("run" ,(local-file "run")))))))
>>>
>>> This applies to all other targets. My expectation is that the
>>> configuration should expect the exact target and not make an
>>> assumption that all targets are hidden files, since that allows for
>>> more utility:
>
> I share Nick’s surprise. :-)
>
> [...]
>
>> It's intentional and is a part of a design decision:
>>
>> For example for ("config/guix/channels.scm" ,(local-file "./chans.scm"))
>> chans.scm goes not to ~/.config/guix/channels.scm, but to
>> $XDG_CONFIG_DIR/guix/channels.scm, which can be a different location
>> from ~/.config, absent dot should partially break this expectation.
>>
>> It's a bad practice to use something without "config/..." prefix and
>> generally it should be avoided, it still possible to use something
>> different in rare use-cases, for example for zsh: ("zshenv"
>> ,zshenv-file-like-here), because it's hard to implement the lookup for
>> initial configuration file other way for shells.
>
> Oh, I see.
>
>> You can elaborate more on what you try to achieve and I can try to give
>> you a recommendation how to implement it.
>
> I’d expect ‘home-files-service-type’ to do just that: add files to the
> home directory, without trying to be smart.
>
> Would it make sense to distinguish between ‘home-files’ and (say)
> ‘home-xdg-configuration-files’?
Yep, I can do that, actually, it will be even better for the purpose I
originally had. I'll make home-files to store files as it is and
symlink manager not to add leading dots and a separate folder for
xdg configs.
Ludo, Nick, what do you think about following names?
~/.guix-home/home-dir-files/
~/.guix-home/xdg-config-dir-files/
>
> The latter would copy files to $XDG_CONFIG_DIR at activation time,
> whereas the former would just copy them to $HOME.
>
>
> I’d also suggest removing special handling of HOME/files in
> symlink-manager.scm. Relations between the various components of Guix
> Home should preferably be made explicit via service extensions, and not
> implicit through conventions like this ‘files’ sub-directory.
>
> Thoughts?
Unfortunatelly, I don't know how to implement polymorphic behavior the
other way with current extension mechanism, so I would prefer to keep
this relation implicit, to make it possible to use a different machinery
instead of symlink manager to implement advanced techniques similar to
read-only home from Julien's guix-home-manager.
It's almost impossible to turn off symlink manager unintentionally, so
it should be ok.
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Best regards,
Andrew Tropin
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-02-02 8:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-12-26 17:17 bug#52808: Guix home should not assume that all targets are dot files Nick Zalutskiy
2022-01-28 10:51 ` Andrew Tropin
2022-01-28 13:33 ` Nick Zalutskiy
2022-01-28 15:22 ` Andrew Tropin
2022-01-30 17:13 ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-02-02 8:10 ` Andrew Tropin [this message]
2022-02-08 9:46 ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-02-11 15:52 ` Andrew Tropin
2022-02-26 7:13 ` Andrew Tropin
2022-03-05 22:44 ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-03-09 4:26 ` Andrew Tropin
2022-03-10 10:56 ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-03-11 7:41 ` Andrew Tropin
2022-03-20 18:07 ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-02-08 12:58 ` Xinglu Chen
2022-02-10 20:32 ` Ludovic Courtès
[not found] ` <handler.52808.D52808.16477996643062.notifdone@debbugs.gnu.org>
2022-03-20 21:00 ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-03-28 9:17 ` Andrew Tropin
2022-03-29 9:51 ` Andrew Tropin
2022-04-10 20:52 ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-03-29 10:24 ` Andrew Tropin
2022-03-30 19:51 ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-04-08 18:18 ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-04-09 14:28 ` Andrew Tropin
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