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From: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>
To: Thomas Schmitt <scdbackup@gmx.net>
Cc: bug-xorriso@gnu.org, 35283@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#35283: ISO images are not reproducible
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2019 13:40:24 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <875zrafck7.fsf_-_@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3867672606037906126@scdbackup.webframe.org> (Thomas Schmitt's message of "Sat, 13 Apr 2019 18:20:57 +0200")

Hi,

(Moving discussion to <https://issues.guix.info/issue/35283>, which is
specifically about ISO image reproducibility issues.)

"Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> skribis:

> Florian Pelz wrote:
>>  The content is different at the beginning of the ISO image
>> (maybe padding or timestamps in the file system)
>
> That's to expect if not environment SOURCE_DATE_EPOCH is set and exported.
>
> SOURCE_DATE_EPOCH belongs to the specs of reproducible-builds.org. It
> is supposed to be either undefined or to contain a decimal number which
> tells the seconds since january 1st 1970. If it contains a number, then
> it is used for all timestamps and as seed of pseudo-random numbers like
> MBR id or GPT UUIDs.
>
> If all files and directories have the same names and the same content,
> then xorriso runs with the same arguments and the same SOURCE_DATE_EPOCH
> value are supposed to create byte-identical result ISOs.

By mounting the ISO image, I found that some files didn’t have their
timestamp reset: some files in /var/guix (easily fixed), but more
importantly those added by GRUB in /boot and /System.

Files added by ‘grub-mkrescue’ are “out of our control” so we would need
to patch ‘grub-mkrescue’ to honor SOURCE_DATE_EPOCH, for example.

However, after rereading the Xorriso manual, it seemed to me that if we
set SOURCE_DATE_EPOCH and pass:

  -volume_date all_file_dates set_to_mtime

then all the files would have the mtime specified by SOURCE_DATE_EPOCH,
which would solve the problem.

I tried it, but that’s not what happened.  What am I missing, Thomas?

Thanks,
Ludo’.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-04-19 11:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-12-06  0:02 bug#33639: ISO installer image is broken on i686 Ludovic Courtès
2018-12-06  7:19 ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-12-06 10:34   ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-12-06 14:08     ` Thomas Schmitt
2018-12-06 15:34       ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-12-06 16:59         ` Thomas Schmitt
2018-12-15 18:40         ` Thomas Schmitt
2018-12-15 19:24           ` Thomas Schmitt
2018-12-16 15:52           ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-12-16 16:52             ` Thomas Schmitt
2018-12-18 11:16               ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-12-18 21:45                 ` Thomas Schmitt
2018-12-19 14:05                   ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-12-19 14:51                     ` Thomas Schmitt
2018-12-20 13:38                       ` Thomas Schmitt
2018-12-21 20:44                         ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-12-21 21:42                           ` Thomas Schmitt
2019-04-07 20:18                             ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-07 21:35                               ` Thomas Schmitt
2019-04-08  8:50                                 ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-04-09 22:13                                   ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-10 11:17                                     ` Thomas Schmitt
2019-04-10 21:23                                       ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-12 21:26                                       ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-04-13  6:37                                         ` Thomas Schmitt
2019-04-13 13:46                                         ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-13 16:20                                           ` Thomas Schmitt
2019-04-14 21:43                                             ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-04-15  6:07                                               ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-15  8:16                                               ` Thomas Schmitt
2019-04-15  8:35                                                 ` Thomas Schmitt
2019-04-19 11:40                                             ` Ludovic Courtès [this message]
2019-04-19 12:46                                               ` bug#35283: ISO images are not reproducible Thomas Schmitt
2019-04-20 22:57                                                 ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-04-21  8:17                                                   ` Thomas Schmitt
2019-04-21 16:42                                                     ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-04-21 18:44                                                       ` Thomas Schmitt
2019-04-20 23:03                                                 ` bug#35283: [PATCH] mformat: initialize boot sector before writing it Ludovic Courtès
2019-04-21 16:32                                                 ` bug#35283: [PATCH] grub-mkrescue: Allow users to specify a FAT serial number Ludovic Courtès
2019-04-14 15:47                                           ` bug#33639: ISO installer image is broken on i686 Ludovic Courtès
2019-04-15 16:54                                           ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-15 17:55                                             ` Thomas Schmitt
2019-04-16  9:57                                               ` Gábor Boskovits
2019-04-16 21:01                                             ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-04-17  9:03                                               ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2018-12-06 16:28       ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-12-06 17:29         ` Thomas Schmitt
2018-12-07 22:51           ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-12-08 12:42             ` Thomas Schmitt
2018-12-06  9:35 ` swedebugia
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2019-04-15  7:46 bug#35283: ISO images are not reproducible Ludovic Courtès

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