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From: Maxime Devos <maximedevos@telenet.be>
To: Ognen Duzlevski <maketo@sdf.org>, guile-user@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Newbie thoughts on Guile Hall + Guix
Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2022 16:13:46 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c42e6185c0bb5c64392aa5968d306ef0692d367e.camel@telenet.be> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86a6f43uuh.fsf@sdf.org>

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Ognen Duzlevski schreef op zo 06-02-2022 om 09:53 [-0500]:
> > Asking beginners to use Guix is too much of a jump I think. But get
> > them
> > hooked on Guile with an easy package manager and a rich ecosystem,
> > and I
> > think they will come to appreciate Guix and other free software
> > projects, like I did.
> 
> I agree.
> I have already been through the learning curve of Emacs, scheme
> etc. At what point do I focus on just getting my job done and having
> a life outside of the computer instead of constantly being on the
> treadmill of learning one more concept/tool/specific to get a small
> benefit out of it? People should always remember the 80/20
> principle...

In that case, wouldn't a Guile-specific package manager count as yet
another tool to be learned?  Wouldn't using a single package manager
(Guix) for everything -- Emacs, Guile, Racket, Python, C stuff ...,
instead of learning a new language-specific package manager every time
you use a new language?  As such, I cannot reconcile your ‘I agree’
with your explanation, your explanation would seem better fitting with
‘I disagree’.

Anyway, there's already a Scheme package manager, e.g.
https://akkuscm.org/ (supports Racket, Guile, Chibi, ...) and
http://snow-fort.org/, so if we go for a Scheme-specific package
manager anyway, I'd rather avoid reinventing the wheel if possible.

Warning: I've never tried any of these Scheme package managers.
I don't know if they are good.

Greetings,
Maxime.

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  reply	other threads:[~2022-02-06 15:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-02-05 20:01 Newbie thoughts on Guile Hall + Guix Christine Lemmer-Webber
2022-02-05 22:15 ` Mikael Djurfeldt
2022-02-05 23:19   ` Jose Antonio Ortega Ruiz
2022-02-06 14:09     ` Ricardo Wurmus
2022-02-06  0:40   ` Christine Lemmer-Webber
2022-02-06  4:54     ` Aleix Conchillo Flaqué
2022-02-06 13:14       ` Mikael Djurfeldt
2022-02-06 14:03         ` Ricardo Wurmus
2022-02-06 14:28           ` Vijay Marupudi
2022-02-06 14:53             ` Ognen Duzlevski
2022-02-06 15:13               ` Maxime Devos [this message]
2022-02-06 15:29               ` Vijay Marupudi
2022-02-06 21:34                 ` Zelphir Kaltstahl
2022-02-07  2:11                   ` David Pirotte
2022-02-07  2:47                     ` David Pirotte
2022-02-07 19:21                     ` Zelphir Kaltstahl
2022-02-07 22:35                   ` adriano
2022-02-05 22:16 ` Vivien
2022-02-06  2:53 ` Zelphir Kaltstahl
2022-02-06 16:35 ` Olivier Dion via General Guile related discussions
2022-02-06 16:44   ` Vivien Kraus
2022-02-06 22:10     ` Olivier Dion via General Guile related discussions
2022-02-06 16:55   ` Maxime Devos
2022-02-06 22:05     ` Olivier Dion via General Guile related discussions
2022-02-06 22:32       ` Maxime Devos
2022-02-06 23:00         ` Olivier Dion via General Guile related discussions
2022-02-06 21:37   ` Zelphir Kaltstahl
2022-02-06 22:12     ` Olivier Dion via General Guile related discussions
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2022-02-06 13:40 dsmich
2022-02-08 12:19 Blake Shaw
2022-02-08 19:46 ` Chris Vine
2022-02-09  6:28 ` Catonano
2022-02-08 16:13 Blake Shaw
2022-02-09  3:23 Blake Shaw
2022-02-09 10:30 Blake Shaw
2022-02-09 14:13 ` Olivier Dion via General Guile related discussions
2022-02-09 20:05   ` Aleix Conchillo Flaqué
2022-02-09 20:28     ` Maxime Devos
2022-02-09 21:13       ` Aleix Conchillo Flaqué
2022-02-10 18:03     ` Vivien
2022-02-10 12:42 Blake Shaw

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