From: "Aleix Conchillo Flaqué" <aconchillo@gmail.com>
To: Maxime Devos <maximedevos@telenet.be>
Cc: Blake Shaw <blake@sweatshoppe.org>, guile-devel <guile-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 1/6] docs/match: add pattern matching examples
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2023 19:59:01 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+XASoWMf8kNcJwAXb-U_8EtUB4wWCLDS0Sizzf4zdzL5v_now@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e4b2d71b-b130-a216-c69f-9b9de5d1d751@telenet.be>
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On Mon, Jan 30, 2023 at 6:53 PM Maxime Devos <maximedevos@telenet.be> wrote:
> On 30-01-2023 20:56, Aleix Conchillo Flaqué wrote:
> > [...] Maxime found the time to review a quite big PR and added a
> > bunch of useful comments. Reviewing that PR took a lot of effort and I
> > just felt better after fixing all the comments made. I was even
> > surprised he (I'm assuming this pronoun) did.
>
> Unfortunately you are assuming incorrectly; s/he/she/. (*)
> For future reference, 'they' is usually a safe ‘default’ (except when
> they hate that, eergh). At least, for some values of 'usual' that might
> not be representative.
>
>
Oh, well. I confess I did a quick Google search but I clearly assumed
incorrectly based on the results, my bad. I don't hate using they at all.
> [...] And my feeling is she just wants things to
> > be as correct as possible, which is quite important, especially in a
> > programming language.
>
> That's it, yes.
>
> > Exchanging messages in a written form has its own challenges (your mood
> > on that day, maybe you phrase things in a way that can be misunderstood,
> > ...). So I will stop writing and just leave you all with a smiley face.
> :-)
> >
> > Best,
>
> Something I would like to add here, is that these kind of emotional
> challenges often appear self-inflicted to me. I mean, the mailing list
> is a rather technical medium for technical talk about technical things.
> There is no emotional stuff there unless you add it or you assume it.
>
> Instead of analysing technical messages on the ML for whether there's
> some emotional hidden message behind it, can't we just assume that any
> technical messages are just technical, meaning literally what's written
> in them?
>
>
That's how I see it too and that would be ideal.
> I'm not saying that the emotional stuff should be completely forbidden,
> but like, with a little care you can separate the technical from the
> emotional, e.g.:
>
> ‘[Oh, I wanted that feature for a long time!]
>
> This won't work at all because it assumes frobs are never barzed,
> yet they are when [...]. I'm thinking you'll need a completely
> different approach, though I don't have a clue what this approach
> would be.
>
> [Keep up the good work!]’
>
> (The [...] lines are nice, but optional. Also the brackets are
> optional.). Like, the second paragraph just says it won't work at all
> because $reasons. While very unfortunate, there is no malice anywhere;
> it's just technical stuff. Likewise, the first [...] and last [...],
> while emotionally positive, are irrelevant for the evaluation of the
> technical middle part.
>
>
Again, that's how I try to approach it as well. And actually I believe I
tend to be emotional by adding positive messages as the ones you just
mentioned. Even though they are irrelevant I like to think people like to
read nice things after all (at least, I do).
> > Aleix
> >
>
> (*) There are people who apologise after making such mistaken
> assumptions, which I suppose is a quite reasonable course of action to
> take in general, but please don't in this case? It just seems
> embarrassing to me.
>
Since you made it optional with ?... I apologize. I don't mind
embarrassing myself (and I hope I don't embarrass you).
Best and keep up the good work!
Aleix
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Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-01-26 18:57 [PATCH v1 1/6] docs/match: add pattern matching examples Blake Shaw
2023-01-26 18:57 ` [PATCH v1 2/6] docs/match: rm unquote-splicing as it interferes with textinfo Blake Shaw
2023-01-27 16:27 ` Maxime Devos
2023-01-28 9:14 ` Blake Shaw
2023-01-28 13:08 ` Maxime Devos
2023-01-29 3:09 ` Blake Shaw
2023-01-26 18:57 ` [PATCH v1 3/6] docs/match: add reverse nested list example Blake Shaw
2023-01-26 18:57 ` [PATCH v1 4/6] docs/match: match-let* unwrap example Blake Shaw
2023-01-26 18:58 ` [PATCH v1 5/6] docs/fixup: @cindex was in the wrong place Blake Shaw
2023-01-26 18:58 ` [PATCH v1 6/6] docs/match:style reviewing with pdf, adding newlines Blake Shaw
2023-01-28 13:18 ` [PATCH v1 1/6] docs/match: add pattern matching examples Maxime Devos
2023-01-28 19:10 ` randomlooser
2023-01-28 19:23 ` randomlooser
[not found] ` <CAKjmbcA9TeuC0HWE53cG4EfautTcW5s9tyh0tCXUvicAQiBFKQ@mail.gmail.com>
2023-01-29 14:23 ` Maxime Devos
2023-01-28 13:48 ` Maxime Devos
[not found] ` <CAKjmbcAucYA9j7suY1gEAO512pn+90ED33Wq5Z7CjrBsqxgrbw@mail.gmail.com>
2023-01-29 15:30 ` Maxime Devos
2023-01-30 0:49 ` Blake Shaw
2023-01-30 19:56 ` Aleix Conchillo Flaqué
2023-01-30 19:57 ` Aleix Conchillo Flaqué
2023-01-31 2:53 ` Maxime Devos
2023-01-31 3:59 ` Aleix Conchillo Flaqué [this message]
2023-01-31 2:28 ` [PATCH v1 1/6] docs/match: add pattern matching examples + CoC Maxime Devos
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