Gambda Logo

Gambda Logo

[Thorsten Wilms]

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Hi!

Here's another and final logo proposal in 4 variations (attached).

It's all about the symbol, I simply picked the color and font from the 
website demo, just for a first shot at a lockup.


-- 
Thorsten Wilms

thorwil's design for free software:
http://thorwil.wordpress.com/

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Re: Gambda Logo

[Amirouche Boubekki]

Le 2015-10-13 11:37, Thorsten Wilms a écrit :
> Hi!
> 
> Here's another and final logo proposal in 4 variations (attached).
> 
> It's all about the symbol, I simply picked the color and font from the
> website demo, just for a first shot at a lockup.

To be honest, i like them. Keeping the lambda is interesting.

Re: Gambda Logo

[Thorsten Wilms]

Hi!

I guess the silence (with the one exception, thank you Amirouche!) means 
I should stop and go away, but I couldn't help it ... here's a 
comparison using Luis's work and a small refinement:
http://i.imgur.com/qM0k0Xq.png


-- 
Thorsten Wilms

thorwil's design for free software:
http://thorwil.wordpress.com/

Re: Gambda Logo

[Ricardo Wurmus]

Hi Thorsten,

> I guess the silence (with the one exception, thank you Amirouche!) means 
> I should stop and go away, but I couldn't help it ... here's a 
> comparison using Luis's work and a small refinement:
> http://i.imgur.com/qM0k0Xq.png

I like the idea of bringing lambda into the logo, and the gap between
“G” and “u” in your logo is nicer than in the one proposed by Luis.

The transition from the lambda to the arc of the stylised “G” is very
harsh, though.  It’s a very sharp edge and I prefer the friendly
“roundness” of Luis’s logo.  Maybe the lines of the Gambda logo are just
too thin?

Also, the lambda and “Guile” don’t seem to relate to one another; they
just sit next to each other, whereas in the logo on the left the
stylised parentheses “cooperate” with the text in that the embrace the
curve of the “G”.

I think the logo on the left could be improved by fixing the right part
of the round “G” and by adding a serif to the “l” (to reduce the gap
between “l” and “e”).  I cannot think of a constructive suggestion for
the Gambda logo, I’m afraid.

~~ Ricardo

Re: Gambda Logo

[Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer]

Thorsten Wilms <t_w_@freenet.de> writes:

> I guess the silence (with the one exception, thank you Amirouche!)
> means I should stop and go away, [...]

No need to be so self-critical. :-)

Personally I was silent because I found both nice in their own ways and
could not decide.  (Your second logo is definitely much nicer than your
first though, IMO.)

In the mail you originally posted, the logo it looked somewhat pixelated
(needs more anti-aliasing?) but in this on-website comparison it doesn't
have that issue so it looks very nice.

And I have to say it looks almost like a somewhat better fit on the
website, due to the rest of the site looking quite "organic" (due to the
drawing, I think), and your logo too (due to the curvature of the
lambda, I think), whereas the other logo looks a bit more "mechanic" and
more bold (literally as well as figuratively).  Not sure if my words
make sense, describing feelings is difficult.


All in all I find both very nice, but have a slight preference for your
logo, at least when placed on the website.

Taylan

Re: Gambda Logo

[Luis Felipe López Acevedo]

On 2015-10-17 04:38, Thorsten Wilms wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> I guess the silence (with the one exception, thank you Amirouche!)
> means I should stop and go away, but I couldn't help it ... here's a
> comparison using Luis's work and a small refinement:
> http://i.imgur.com/qM0k0Xq.png

Hi, Thorsten! Thanks for the comparison, it's very helpful.

I think the silence is because people here seem to be working on many 
(big) projects. I don't know how they manage to do all the things they 
do :)

I have to agree with Taylan. The logo you propose seems to fit better on 
the website, although I don't like it. My mind seems to interpret the 
icon as the ear of a cartoon character :P

Also, compared to the gambda icon, I think the contracted form of the 
logo I propose could work better as application icon (i.e. on the 
desktop) and website icon.

Best,

-- 
Luis Felipe López Acevedo
http://sirgazil.bitbucket.org/

Re: Gambda Logo

[Luis Felipe López Acevedo]

On 2015-10-17 06:38, Ricardo Wurmus wrote:

[...]

> I think the logo on the left could be improved by fixing the right part
> of the round “G” and by adding a serif to the “l” (to reduce the gap
> between “l” and “e”).

Yeah, you mentioned that before. I'll make a revision trying to apply 
that (this Sunday, or Monday, hopefully)

-- 
Luis Felipe López Acevedo
http://sirgazil.bitbucket.org/

Re: Gambda Logo

[Christopher Allan Webber]

Thorsten Wilms writes:

> Hi!
>
> I guess the silence (with the one exception, thank you Amirouche!) means 
> I should stop and go away, but I couldn't help it ... here's a 
> comparison using Luis's work and a small refinement:
> http://i.imgur.com/qM0k0Xq.png

It looks really nice!  I think I still prefer the original logo for its
minimalism.  However, it would kind of be a shame to let the Gambda,
which is probably the nicest Lambda-including logo I've ever seen, go to
waste.

I wonder even if it doesn't get used for Guile (and maybe it will?) if
it could be used for some other Guile using project that's up and
coming?  Hell, "Gambda" would be a great name for a library.

Re: Gambda Logo

[Thorsten Wilms]

On 17.10.2015 13:38, Ricardo Wurmus wrote:
> The transition from the lambda to the arc of the stylised “G” is very
> harsh, though.  It’s a very sharp edge and I prefer the friendly
> “roundness” of Luis’s logo.

Funny, as my initial sketches had one flowing curve instead of a hard 
bend. I moved away from that, at it made both the G and the lambda 
harder to recognise. I will try rounding it out a bit.


> Also, the lambda and “Guile” don’t seem to relate to one another; they
> just sit next to each other, whereas in the logo on the left the
> stylised parentheses “cooperate” with the text in that the embrace the
> curve of the “G”.

I could likely improve on that with custom font, but that takes a lot of 
time, so the symbol should be nailed down, first.


> I think the logo on the left could be improved by fixing the right part
> of the round “G” and by adding a serif to the “l” (to reduce the gap
> between “l” and “e”).

The thing is, if you adjust the G to have that hook it has in so many 
fonts, it will work better with "uile", but sit less well alone in the 
(implied) circle.


Thanks to you and Taylan, this is feedback one can work with :)


-- 
Thorsten Wilms

thorwil's design for free software:
http://thorwil.wordpress.com/

Re: Gambda Logo

[Thorsten Wilms]

On 17.10.2015 16:50, Luis Felipe López Acevedo wrote:
> My mind seems to interpret the icon as the ear of a cartoon character

Hmmm, I can see that if I really want to. Associations like this 
absolutely should be mentioned. Recalling one or the other high-profile 
logo design case, ears are one of the less problematic body parts :)
It could mean Guile listens ;)


-- 
Thorsten Wilms

thorwil's design for free software:
http://thorwil.wordpress.com/

Re: Gambda Logo

[Thorsten Wilms]

On 17.10.2015 18:10, Christopher Allan Webber wrote:
> It looks really nice!  I think I still prefer the original logo for its
> minimalism.  However, it would kind of be a shame to let the Gambda,
> which is probably the nicest Lambda-including logo I've ever seen, go to
> waste.

Thanks!

> I wonder even if it doesn't get used for Guile (and maybe it will?) if
> it could be used for some other Guile using project that's up and
> coming?  Hell, "Gambda" would be a great name for a library.

Iff it won't be used for Guile, I see nothing speaking against using it 
for a different project, as long as the lambda and the implied G make 
sense for it.


-- 
Thorsten Wilms

thorwil's design for free software:
http://thorwil.wordpress.com/

Re: Gambda Logo

[Ludovic Courtès]

Thorsten Wilms <t_w_@freenet.de> skribis:

> I guess the silence (with the one exception, thank you Amirouche!)
> means I should stop and go away, but I couldn't help it ... here's a
> comparison using Luis's work and a small refinement:
> http://i.imgur.com/qM0k0Xq.png

This is really nice!  I must say I find it hard to have to choose
between two very good proposals.  :-)

I think I have a slight preference for Luis’ proposal.

Regardless, I agree with Chris: we must put this design to good use in
another G project!

Thanks for the great work.

Ludo’.

Re: Gambda Logo

[Thorsten Wilms]

On 20.10.2015 10:54, Ludovic Courtès wrote:

> This is really nice!  I must say I find it hard to have to choose
> between two very good proposals.  :-)
>
> I think I have a slight preference for Luis’ proposal.
>
> Regardless, I agree with Chris: we must put this design to good use in
> another G project!
>
> Thanks for the great work.

You're welcome! :)

Well, I have already been busy with another iteration, taking the 
feedback into account and adding custom type. Since it is already this 
far, I will finish and post it soon.


-- 
Thorsten Wilms

thorwil's design for free software:
http://thorwil.wordpress.com/

Re: Gambda Logo

[Thorsten Wilms]

Hi!

As mentioned, the next iteration with custom type. The Gambda lost the 
hard bend and varies in line width:
http://i.imgur.com/awkMTzX.png


-- 
Thorsten Wilms

thorwil's design for free software:
http://thorwil.wordpress.com/

Re: Gambda Logo

[Christopher Allan Webber]

Thorsten Wilms writes:

> Hi!
>
> As mentioned, the next iteration with custom type. The Gambda lost the 
> hard bend and varies in line width:
> http://i.imgur.com/awkMTzX.png

Wow, big improvements!

Re: Gambda Logo

[Ricardo Wurmus]

Thorsten Wilms <t_w_@freenet.de> writes:

> As mentioned, the next iteration with custom type. The Gambda lost the 
> hard bend and varies in line width:
> http://i.imgur.com/awkMTzX.png

It looks a lot better this way, in my opinion!

~~ Ricardo

Re: Gambda Logo

[Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer]

Thorsten Wilms <t_w_@freenet.de> writes:

> Hi!
>
> As mentioned, the next iteration with custom type. The Gambda lost the
> hard bend and varies in line width:
> http://i.imgur.com/awkMTzX.png

I already like the other, and I like this too; no change in opinion. :-)

Taylan