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From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
To: Helmut Eller <eller.helmut@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: basic questions on MPS
Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2024 18:44:14 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1s1DFm-0008W8-Uw@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87wmojci4e.fsf@gmail.com> (message from Helmut Eller on Sat, 27 Apr 2024 10:41:37 +0200)

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Thanks for the explanation?

  > This can be implemented with hardware or software (or a combination).
  > Hardware barriers use the MMU via syscalls.

Do the CPUs we use nowadays have hardware features for that?
What aout the CPUs in the newest non=backdoored machines, such
as the Thinkpad t800 and x200s?

                                                 Software barriers are a
  > data structure that must be updated on every read (or write) operation.
  > This requires compiler assistance or disciplined programmers.

That sounds rather slow.  But maybe you have practical experience to
measure it.  Can GCC insert this cod eautomatically?  Or does Emacs do
it manually?  Either way, how much slowdown does it actually cause?

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  reply	other threads:[~2024-04-28 22:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 149+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-04-20  9:34 STatus of MPS branch Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-20 14:56 ` Michael Albinus
2024-04-20 15:08   ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-20 15:32     ` Michael Albinus
2024-04-20 17:37       ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-21  7:39         ` Michael Albinus
2024-04-21  7:56           ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-21  8:00             ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-21  8:04               ` Michael Albinus
2024-04-21  8:08                 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-21  8:18                   ` Michael Albinus
2024-04-21  8:28                     ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-21  8:17           ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-21  9:43             ` Michael Albinus
2024-04-21 10:07               ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-21 10:58                 ` Tramp tests in MPS branch (was: STatus of MPS branch) Michael Albinus
2024-04-21 12:44                   ` Tramp tests in MPS branch Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-21  9:29           ` STatus of " Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-21  4:38 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-21  5:31   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-21  5:39     ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-21  9:04       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-21  9:17         ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-21  6:15 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-21  9:09   ` Eglot tests on MPS branch (was: STatus of MPS branch) Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-21  9:53     ` João Távora
2024-04-21 10:13       ` Eglot tests on MPS branch Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-21 11:01         ` João Távora
2024-04-21 10:55       ` Eglot tests on MPS branch (was: STatus of MPS branch) Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-21  7:49 ` STatus of MPS branch Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-21  8:45   ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-21  9:08     ` Andrea Corallo
2024-04-21  9:33     ` Native compilation on " Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-21 10:17       ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-21 13:07         ` Andrea Corallo
2024-04-22  7:15           ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-22 22:02             ` Andrea Corallo
2024-04-23  3:11               ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-23 16:09               ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-23 19:43                 ` Andrea Corallo
2024-04-24 12:49                   ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-24 18:14                     ` Andrea Corallo
2024-04-24 18:28                       ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-24 20:54                         ` Andrea Corallo
2024-04-25  4:33                           ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-25  5:50                             ` Andrea Corallo
2024-04-25  7:18                               ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-25  8:06                                 ` Andrea Corallo
2024-04-25  8:15                                   ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-25  8:57                                     ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-25  9:42                                     ` Andrea Corallo
2024-04-25 11:33                                       ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-25  5:24                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-25  5:48                             ` Andrea Corallo
2024-04-25 15:20                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-26 10:15                                 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-21  8:58   ` STatus of " Andrea Corallo
2024-04-21  9:19     ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-21  9:30   ` Native compilation on MPS branch (was: STatus of MPS branch) Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-21 14:39 ` STatus of MPS branch Helmut Eller
2024-04-21 15:37   ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-21 15:52     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-21 20:24     ` Helmut Eller
2024-04-22  4:58       ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-22  5:28       ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-22  6:15         ` MPS signals and Emacs (was: STatus of MPS branch) Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-22  6:44           ` MPS signals and Emacs Paul Eggert
2024-04-22  7:19             ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-22  7:40               ` Paul Eggert
2024-04-22  7:49                 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-22  8:09                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-22  8:27                     ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-22  8:55                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-22  9:02                         ` Mattias Engdegård
2024-04-22  9:02                         ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-22  9:18                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-22  9:29                             ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-22  9:41                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-22 10:22                                 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-22 10:46                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-22 11:00                                     ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-22 12:01                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-22 12:16                                         ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-22 10:54                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-22 11:05                                     ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-22 19:41                   ` Paul Eggert
2024-04-22 20:55                     ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-22 22:12                       ` Paul Eggert
2024-04-23  3:15                         ` Gerd Möllmann
     [not found]                       ` <87le54g1h2.fsf@dick>
2024-04-23  5:51                         ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-23  6:35                           ` Helmut Eller
2024-04-23  6:45                             ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-23  6:53                               ` Helmut Eller
2024-04-23 14:29                                 ` Gerd Möllmann
     [not found]                                   ` <87sezbsmsd.fsf@dick>
2024-04-24  5:03                                     ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-22  7:46               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-22  7:55                 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-22 14:10             ` Helmut Eller
2024-04-22 14:42               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-22 22:06                 ` Paul Eggert
2024-04-23  7:04                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-22  5:36       ` STatus of MPS branch Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-22  5:50         ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-22 15:09           ` Helmut Eller
2024-04-22 17:02             ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-24  7:26 ` Collecting markers with MPS (was: STatus of MPS branch) Helmut Eller
2024-04-24  7:44   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-24  8:56     ` Collecting markers with MPS Helmut Eller
2024-04-24  9:17       ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-24 10:22       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-24 10:27         ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-24 10:58           ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-24 13:32             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-24 13:51               ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-24 15:03         ` Helmut Eller
2024-04-24 15:54           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-24 16:21             ` Helmut Eller
2024-04-24 16:26               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-24 16:50                 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-24 19:18                 ` Helmut Eller
2024-04-24 19:55                   ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-25  7:38                   ` Mattias Engdegård
2024-04-24  9:08     ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-24 19:03       ` Helmut Eller
2024-04-24 20:02         ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-24 20:13           ` Helmut Eller
2024-04-24 20:42             ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-25  9:44       ` Helmut Eller
2024-04-25 11:44         ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-25 16:04 ` basic questions on MPS Andrea Corallo
2024-04-25 17:51   ` Helmut Eller
2024-04-25 18:48     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-25 18:53     ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-25 19:26     ` Vibhav Pant
2024-04-26  6:36       ` Helmut Eller
2024-04-26  7:25         ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-26 15:07         ` vibhavp
2024-04-26  6:42       ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-27  0:20     ` Richard Stallman
2024-04-27  8:41       ` Helmut Eller
2024-04-28 22:44         ` Richard Stallman [this message]
2024-04-29  4:27           ` Helmut Eller
2024-04-29 22:40             ` Richard Stallman
2024-04-25 18:41   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-25 18:53     ` Andrea Corallo
2024-04-25 18:56       ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-25 19:29         ` Andrea Corallo
2024-04-25 19:03       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-25 19:09         ` Andrea Corallo

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