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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Andrea Corallo <acorallo@gnu.org>
Cc: gerd.moellmann@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Native compilation on MPS branch
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2024 18:20:18 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <86cyqd1nbh.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <yp1sezaat6s.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (message from Andrea Corallo on Thu, 25 Apr 2024 01:48:43 -0400)

> From: Andrea Corallo <acorallo@gnu.org>
> Cc: gerd.moellmann@gmail.com,  emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2024 01:48:43 -0400
> 
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
> 
> >> From: Andrea Corallo <acorallo@gnu.org>
> >> Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,  emacs-devel@gnu.org
> >> Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2024 16:54:30 -0400
> >> 
> >> IME rr is invaluable for debugging GC bugs, one can do things like
> >> placing watch-points while doing reverse execution and discover
> >> immediately where something was modified the last time.  You did a very
> >> good job reaching this point of the development without rr.
> >
> > We have the last_marked[] array to facilitate debugging of GC without
> > rr.  I hope we will be able to do something similar with MPS, because
> > rr is not universally available (e.g., not on Windows).
> >
> >> Anyway I'll mention a trick I find extremely usefull to discover where
> >> something was modified last time before a certain event without rr, I
> >> apologize if you know it already but in case it might help some other
> >> reader :)
> >> 
> >> 1 When we crash we set a watch point on the memory we see got
> >> unexpectedly modified
> >> 2 We set the ignore number of the watch-point to a very large number
> >> 3 We restart the execution of the program
> >> 4 When the program crashes again we can see how many time the watch point
> >> was actually ignored
> >> 5 We subtract 1 to this number and we set it again as the ignore number
> >> of the watch-point
> >> 6 We restart again and tada!! We are where that piece of memory was
> >> modified for the last time :)
> >
> > This only works if you disable ASLR, AFAIU.
> 
> Correct, on GNU/Linux gdb does that by default, no idea on other
> systems.

It does it also on Windows, if the version of the OS is new enough to
support that.



  reply	other threads:[~2024-04-25 15:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 149+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-04-20  9:34 STatus of MPS branch Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-20 14:56 ` Michael Albinus
2024-04-20 15:08   ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-20 15:32     ` Michael Albinus
2024-04-20 17:37       ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-21  7:39         ` Michael Albinus
2024-04-21  7:56           ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-21  8:00             ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-21  8:04               ` Michael Albinus
2024-04-21  8:08                 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-21  8:18                   ` Michael Albinus
2024-04-21  8:28                     ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-21  8:17           ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-21  9:43             ` Michael Albinus
2024-04-21 10:07               ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-21 10:58                 ` Tramp tests in MPS branch (was: STatus of MPS branch) Michael Albinus
2024-04-21 12:44                   ` Tramp tests in MPS branch Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-21  9:29           ` STatus of " Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-21  4:38 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-21  5:31   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-21  5:39     ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-21  9:04       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-21  9:17         ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-21  6:15 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-21  9:09   ` Eglot tests on MPS branch (was: STatus of MPS branch) Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-21  9:53     ` João Távora
2024-04-21 10:13       ` Eglot tests on MPS branch Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-21 11:01         ` João Távora
2024-04-21 10:55       ` Eglot tests on MPS branch (was: STatus of MPS branch) Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-21  7:49 ` STatus of MPS branch Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-21  8:45   ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-21  9:08     ` Andrea Corallo
2024-04-21  9:33     ` Native compilation on " Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-21 10:17       ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-21 13:07         ` Andrea Corallo
2024-04-22  7:15           ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-22 22:02             ` Andrea Corallo
2024-04-23  3:11               ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-23 16:09               ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-23 19:43                 ` Andrea Corallo
2024-04-24 12:49                   ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-24 18:14                     ` Andrea Corallo
2024-04-24 18:28                       ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-24 20:54                         ` Andrea Corallo
2024-04-25  4:33                           ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-25  5:50                             ` Andrea Corallo
2024-04-25  7:18                               ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-25  8:06                                 ` Andrea Corallo
2024-04-25  8:15                                   ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-25  8:57                                     ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-25  9:42                                     ` Andrea Corallo
2024-04-25 11:33                                       ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-25  5:24                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-25  5:48                             ` Andrea Corallo
2024-04-25 15:20                               ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2024-04-26 10:15                                 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-21  8:58   ` STatus of " Andrea Corallo
2024-04-21  9:19     ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-21  9:30   ` Native compilation on MPS branch (was: STatus of MPS branch) Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-21 14:39 ` STatus of MPS branch Helmut Eller
2024-04-21 15:37   ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-21 15:52     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-21 20:24     ` Helmut Eller
2024-04-22  4:58       ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-22  5:28       ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-22  6:15         ` MPS signals and Emacs (was: STatus of MPS branch) Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-22  6:44           ` MPS signals and Emacs Paul Eggert
2024-04-22  7:19             ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-22  7:40               ` Paul Eggert
2024-04-22  7:49                 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-22  8:09                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-22  8:27                     ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-22  8:55                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-22  9:02                         ` Mattias Engdegård
2024-04-22  9:02                         ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-22  9:18                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-22  9:29                             ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-22  9:41                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-22 10:22                                 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-22 10:46                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-22 11:00                                     ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-22 12:01                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-22 12:16                                         ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-22 10:54                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-22 11:05                                     ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-22 19:41                   ` Paul Eggert
2024-04-22 20:55                     ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-22 22:12                       ` Paul Eggert
2024-04-23  3:15                         ` Gerd Möllmann
     [not found]                       ` <87le54g1h2.fsf@dick>
2024-04-23  5:51                         ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-23  6:35                           ` Helmut Eller
2024-04-23  6:45                             ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-23  6:53                               ` Helmut Eller
2024-04-23 14:29                                 ` Gerd Möllmann
     [not found]                                   ` <87sezbsmsd.fsf@dick>
2024-04-24  5:03                                     ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-22  7:46               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-22  7:55                 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-22 14:10             ` Helmut Eller
2024-04-22 14:42               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-22 22:06                 ` Paul Eggert
2024-04-23  7:04                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-22  5:36       ` STatus of MPS branch Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-22  5:50         ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-22 15:09           ` Helmut Eller
2024-04-22 17:02             ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-24  7:26 ` Collecting markers with MPS (was: STatus of MPS branch) Helmut Eller
2024-04-24  7:44   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-24  8:56     ` Collecting markers with MPS Helmut Eller
2024-04-24  9:17       ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-24 10:22       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-24 10:27         ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-24 10:58           ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-24 13:32             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-24 13:51               ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-24 15:03         ` Helmut Eller
2024-04-24 15:54           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-24 16:21             ` Helmut Eller
2024-04-24 16:26               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-24 16:50                 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-24 19:18                 ` Helmut Eller
2024-04-24 19:55                   ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-25  7:38                   ` Mattias Engdegård
2024-04-24  9:08     ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-24 19:03       ` Helmut Eller
2024-04-24 20:02         ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-24 20:13           ` Helmut Eller
2024-04-24 20:42             ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-25  9:44       ` Helmut Eller
2024-04-25 11:44         ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-25 16:04 ` basic questions on MPS Andrea Corallo
2024-04-25 17:51   ` Helmut Eller
2024-04-25 18:48     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-25 18:53     ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-25 19:26     ` Vibhav Pant
2024-04-26  6:36       ` Helmut Eller
2024-04-26  7:25         ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-26 15:07         ` vibhavp
2024-04-26  6:42       ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-27  0:20     ` Richard Stallman
2024-04-27  8:41       ` Helmut Eller
2024-04-28 22:44         ` Richard Stallman
2024-04-29  4:27           ` Helmut Eller
2024-04-29 22:40             ` Richard Stallman
2024-04-25 18:41   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-25 18:53     ` Andrea Corallo
2024-04-25 18:56       ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-25 19:29         ` Andrea Corallo
2024-04-25 19:03       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-25 19:09         ` Andrea Corallo

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