From: "João Távora" <joaotavora@gmail.com>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Subprojects in project.el
Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2022 23:26:07 +0000 [thread overview]
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On Fri, Dec 2, 2022 at 3:44 PM Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
wrote:
> Indeed. AFAIK the general approach for APIs that rely on CLOS-style OO
> programming is that all the classes are kept "abstract" and what you see
> is only generic functions. IOW the API is exclusively defined by the
> generic functions.
>
Yes, and such an API is called a "protocol" in CLOS parlance. But the
exclusivity you suggest isn't true: classes and inheritance are a big
part of CLOS and CLOS-style OO. IME, CLOS's power is only fully
realized when you use both.
In Emacs Lisp's flavour of CLOS, generic functions have somewhat
esoteric dispatching mechanisms that I've never seen or needed in a
CLOS system when using classes, inheritance, and method combinations.
So +1 for using classes in more Elisp packages. See for example how
eglot.el subclasses jsonrpc.el's classes. It's not as easy as in Common
Lisp since we don't have things like the beautiful inspector of SLY/SLIME.
But classes still beat those funky cons by a mile IMHO.
João
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2022-11-16 18:37 Eglot, project.el, and python virtual environments Eric Abrahamsen
2022-11-16 22:24 ` Danny Freeman
2022-11-16 22:53 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2022-11-17 13:41 ` Danny Freeman
2022-11-17 18:06 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2022-11-17 18:48 ` Yuan Fu
2022-11-17 22:21 ` Tim Cross
2022-11-18 2:38 ` Phil Sainty
2022-11-18 7:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-18 13:55 ` Danny Freeman
2022-11-18 15:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-18 15:53 ` Danny Freeman
2022-11-18 19:36 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2022-11-18 15:06 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-11-18 15:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-18 15:28 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-11-19 1:12 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-19 7:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-19 13:06 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-19 13:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-18 18:31 ` João Távora
2022-11-19 1:13 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-19 1:56 ` João Távora
2022-11-19 15:23 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-19 19:17 ` Danny Freeman
2022-11-19 19:49 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-19 21:22 ` Danny Freeman
2022-11-20 1:51 ` João Távora
2022-11-20 15:36 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-20 20:35 ` João Távora
2022-11-20 22:05 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-21 13:45 ` João Távora
2022-11-22 15:48 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-22 21:12 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-11-22 21:34 ` João Távora
2022-11-22 22:00 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-22 23:23 ` João Távora
2022-11-23 0:03 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-23 13:57 ` Subprojects in project.el (Was: Eglot, project.el, and python virtual environments) João Távora
2022-11-23 20:33 ` João Távora
2022-11-24 2:49 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-24 8:42 ` João Távora
2022-11-24 22:17 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-25 19:56 ` Subprojects in project.el João Távora
2022-11-25 22:33 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-26 0:00 ` João Távora
2022-11-26 1:57 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-26 9:23 ` João Távora
2022-11-26 13:34 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-26 19:36 ` João Távora
2022-11-26 2:01 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-26 9:24 ` João Távora
2022-11-24 2:51 ` Subprojects in project.el (Was: Eglot, project.el, and python virtual environments) Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-24 6:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-24 9:01 ` João Távora
2022-11-24 22:11 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-25 7:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-25 17:24 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-25 19:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-25 21:57 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-25 23:55 ` Subprojects in project.el João Távora
2022-11-28 0:41 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-26 7:26 ` Subprojects in project.el (Was: Eglot, project.el, and python virtual environments) Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-02 1:32 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-12-02 14:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-02 15:08 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-12-02 15:37 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-12-02 15:44 ` Subprojects in project.el Stefan Monnier
2022-12-02 23:26 ` João Távora [this message]
2022-12-06 14:36 ` Subprojects in project.el (Was: Eglot, project.el, and python virtual environments) João Távora
2022-11-24 3:01 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-24 8:50 ` João Távora
2022-11-24 22:46 ` Tim Cross
2022-11-24 23:38 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-25 7:07 ` Bozhidar Batsov
2022-11-25 14:58 ` Subprojects in project.el Stefan Monnier
2022-11-25 22:29 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-26 2:59 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-11-26 12:30 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-26 17:32 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-11-27 0:25 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-25 20:32 ` João Távora
2022-11-28 4:10 ` Subprojects in project.el (Was: Eglot, project.el, and python virtual environments) Tim Cross
2022-11-28 17:21 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-29 9:56 ` Subprojects in project.el João Távora
2022-11-29 18:40 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-29 22:21 ` João Távora
2022-11-30 0:39 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-30 0:54 ` João Távora
2022-11-30 0:57 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-30 1:18 ` João Távora
2022-12-02 22:47 ` Richard Stallman
2022-12-02 23:46 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-12-03 7:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-24 22:58 ` Subprojects in project.el (Was: Eglot, project.el, and python virtual environments) Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-25 2:38 ` Subprojects in project.el Stefan Monnier
2022-11-25 20:23 ` João Távora
2022-11-25 22:23 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-25 7:42 ` Juri Linkov
2022-11-25 20:27 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-25 23:47 ` João Távora
2022-11-25 23:58 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-26 0:46 ` João Távora
2022-11-26 2:07 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-25 20:16 ` João Távora
2022-11-25 22:44 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-26 0:37 ` João Távora
2022-11-26 2:05 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-26 9:42 ` João Távora
2022-11-26 12:38 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-29 10:03 ` João Távora
2022-11-29 10:17 ` João Távora
2022-11-29 19:07 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-29 22:52 ` João Távora
2022-11-30 1:10 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-27 19:25 ` Juri Linkov
2022-11-27 21:43 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-22 23:53 ` "Backend completion style" as a first-class library. Re: Eglot, project.el, and python virtual environments João Távora
2022-11-23 1:45 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-11-25 13:16 ` João Távora
2022-11-22 21:40 ` João Távora
2022-11-22 22:13 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-22 23:33 ` João Távora
2022-11-21 20:58 ` Augusto Stoffel
2022-11-23 3:37 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-20 16:37 ` João Távora
2022-11-21 7:54 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2022-11-21 13:36 ` João Távora
2022-11-21 15:41 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2022-11-21 16:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-21 16:49 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2022-11-21 20:54 ` Augusto Stoffel
2022-11-19 23:25 ` João Távora
2022-11-19 23:40 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-16 23:18 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-11-17 1:14 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2022-11-17 6:47 ` North Year
2022-11-17 18:09 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2022-11-19 22:36 ` Stephen Leake
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