From: Emanuel Berg <incal@dataswamp.org>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: standard libraries again (was: Re: [External] : Re: completing-read depricated initial-input)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2022 23:18:39 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87y1xomm6o.fsf@dataswamp.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: SJ0PR10MB5488F2C7C1731FE847479323F3B29@SJ0PR10MB5488.namprd10.prod.outlook.com
Drew Adams wrote:
>> Now you're getting stuck on the names
>
> You asked "what's an Emacs library"? I thought you wanted to
> know what "library" means to Emacs.
So the truth to the matter is we have a bunch of files all
over the place, with no way of knowing what's in them and
what's where, and this lack of solid libraries compared to
what the most successful languages have is a big part of the
answer to the question why devel time in Elisp is often poor
or moderate?
I tried CL once with SLIME/SBCL/SDL2/OpenGL [1] but the
interactiveness of Elisp wasn't there ... hm, maybe that was
a game loop thing? Is it so, that CL has proper libraries only
Emacs Lisp doesn't?
Here library is a service to the programmer but also ...
well, obviously a utility for the programs to work.
Are libraries part of CL and part of its "industrial strength"
Lisp quality?
[1] https://dataswamp.org/~incal/common-lisp/general-base
--
underground experts united
https://dataswamp.org/~incal
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2022-06-21 11:19 ` Michael Heerdegen
2022-06-21 12:39 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-21 12:46 ` Michael Heerdegen
2022-06-21 14:04 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-06-21 14:10 ` Michael Heerdegen
2022-06-21 14:49 ` Drew Adams
2022-06-22 8:50 ` Jean Louis
2022-06-22 9:32 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-21 10:26 ` Robert Pluim
2022-06-21 11:15 ` carlmarcos--- via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-06-21 12:39 ` Christopher Dimech
2022-06-21 14:09 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-06-21 18:21 ` Arash Esbati
2022-06-21 19:04 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-21 20:41 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-06-21 21:28 ` Arash Esbati
2022-06-21 22:07 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-06-21 22:56 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-22 13:43 ` Drew Adams
2022-06-22 15:59 ` standard libraries again (was: Re: [External] : Re: completing-read depricated initial-input) Emanuel Berg
2022-06-22 17:39 ` Drew Adams
2022-06-22 18:05 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-22 20:53 ` Drew Adams
2022-06-22 21:18 ` Emanuel Berg [this message]
2022-06-23 7:59 ` completing-read depricated initial-input Arash Esbati
2022-06-23 10:06 ` carlmarcos--- via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-06-23 20:57 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-23 11:19 ` Michael Heerdegen
2022-06-23 12:12 ` Arash Esbati
2022-06-23 14:52 ` Michael Heerdegen
2022-06-23 16:30 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-06-23 16:41 ` Michael Heerdegen
2022-06-23 18:27 ` Christopher Dimech
2022-06-23 21:14 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-23 18:25 ` RE: [External] : " Christopher Dimech
2022-06-23 21:13 ` [External] : " Emanuel Berg
2022-06-23 21:07 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-23 21:06 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-23 14:36 ` Jean Louis
2022-06-24 2:35 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-24 6:59 ` Jean Louis
2022-06-23 15:19 ` Jean Louis
2022-06-23 15:24 ` Jean Louis
2022-06-23 21:05 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-06-23 22:10 ` Christopher Dimech
2022-06-23 22:19 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-06-23 22:28 ` Christopher Dimech
2022-06-24 7:08 ` Jean Louis
2022-06-24 8:19 ` Christopher Dimech
2022-06-24 11:00 ` Jean Louis
2022-06-24 16:58 ` Christopher Dimech
2022-06-24 8:19 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-24 11:31 ` Jean Louis
2022-06-25 18:54 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-25 19:51 ` Jean Louis
2022-06-26 17:36 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-24 14:30 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-06-24 19:33 ` RE: [External] : " Christopher Dimech
2022-06-25 19:12 ` [External] : " Emanuel Berg
2022-06-25 21:26 ` Drew Adams
2022-06-26 17:39 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-26 22:22 ` Drew Adams
2022-06-26 22:42 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-24 0:10 ` Drew Adams
2022-06-24 8:09 ` RE: [External] : " Christopher Dimech
2022-06-24 2:29 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-23 16:23 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-06-23 20:58 ` Arash Esbati
2022-06-23 21:54 ` Christopher Dimech
2022-06-24 2:49 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-22 3:09 ` Po Lu
2022-06-22 3:46 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-22 4:56 ` Christopher Dimech
2022-06-23 8:20 ` Arash Esbati
2022-06-23 8:27 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-23 8:57 ` Tassilo Horn
2022-06-23 10:10 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-23 11:26 ` Tassilo Horn
2022-06-23 11:48 ` carlmarcos--- via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-06-23 21:38 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-24 8:03 ` Christopher Dimech
2022-06-23 21:34 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-23 11:58 ` Arash Esbati
2022-06-23 12:10 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-06-23 14:26 ` Tassilo Horn
2022-06-23 14:46 ` Arash Esbati
2022-06-23 15:18 ` Robert Pluim
2022-06-23 20:46 ` Arash Esbati
2022-06-24 8:40 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-06-24 2:22 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-24 2:17 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-23 21:49 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-23 21:42 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-23 16:25 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-06-23 19:56 ` Tassilo Horn
2022-06-24 11:23 ` carlmarcos--- via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-06-24 11:36 ` Jean Louis
2022-06-25 19:01 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-25 21:26 ` Drew Adams
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