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From: sbaugh@catern.com
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: call-process should not block process filters from running
Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2023 10:16:26 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ttujoj7p.fsf@catern.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 87wmzfn683.fsf@gmx.de

Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@gmx.de> writes:
> sbaugh@catern.com writes:
>
> Hi,
>
>> Also, it's worth noting that process-file makes doing that a little
>> tricky.  process-file already usually runs Lisp while waiting for the
>> process when it's using a remote file name handler, but when it's
>> running locally it just uses call-process.  So users of process-file
>> would need to be converted to start-file-process so that they're
>> uniformly asynchronous.  But, some TRAMP backends support process-file
>> but not start-file-process.  So it's not clear what a programmer should
>> do if they want to synchronously run a process through a file name
>> handler, and they're fine with Lisp running during that.  (Making
>> call-process optionally support running Lisp neatly solves this:
>> process-file users can just bind call-process-run-lisp to t around
>> process-file.)
>
> All of this sounds like a can of worms to Tramp. OMG. Please don't do
> this change.

There's multiple changes being discussed here.  One of them is "change
some users of process-file to use start-file-process instead".  Surely
you don't oppose that change, since it doesn't affect TRAMP internals at
all.




  reply	other threads:[~2023-07-04 14:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-06-27 21:55 call-process should not block process filters from running Spencer Baugh
2023-06-28 11:39 ` Mattias Engdegård
2023-06-28 11:56 ` Po Lu
2023-06-28 12:08   ` Spencer Baugh
2023-06-28 13:17     ` Po Lu
2023-06-28 12:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-28 13:27   ` Spencer Baugh
2023-06-28 13:34     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-01 18:24     ` Spencer Baugh
2023-07-01 18:59       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-01 19:17         ` Spencer Baugh
2023-07-02  5:45           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-03  0:02             ` sbaugh
2023-07-03 10:00               ` Po Lu
2023-07-03 17:53                 ` sbaugh
2023-07-03 18:51                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-03 20:28                     ` sbaugh
2023-07-04  4:12                       ` Po Lu
2023-07-04 11:25                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-04 12:42                         ` sbaugh
2023-07-04 13:42                           ` Michael Albinus
2023-07-04 14:16                             ` sbaugh [this message]
2023-07-05  6:36                               ` Michael Albinus
2023-07-04 11:10                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-04 12:20                         ` sbaugh
2023-07-04 13:09                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-04 13:37                             ` sbaugh
2023-07-04 13:25                           ` Po Lu
2023-07-04  1:04                     ` sbaugh
2023-07-04  4:09                       ` Po Lu
2023-07-04 12:27                         ` sbaugh
2023-07-04 13:22                           ` Po Lu
2023-07-04 13:51                             ` sbaugh
2023-07-04 16:38                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-04 16:53                                 ` sbaugh
2023-07-04 17:14                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-04 16:49               ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-07-04 18:12                 ` sbaugh
2023-07-05 18:53                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-07-06  2:24                     ` sbaugh
2023-07-06  8:06                       ` Michael Albinus
2023-07-08 15:54                         ` sbaugh
2023-07-09  9:04                           ` Michael Albinus

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