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From: sbaugh@catern.com
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: call-process should not block process filters from running
Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2023 12:53:52 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87cz17obxb.fsf@catern.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 833523ljht.fsf@gnu.org

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>> From: sbaugh@catern.com
>> Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2023 09:51:42 -0400
>> 
>> >Timer functions should also avoid calling functions that cause Emacs to
>> >wait, such as ‘sit-for’ (*note Waiting::).  This can lead to
>> >unpredictable effects, since other timers (or even the same timer) can
>> >run while waiting.
>> 
>> But it seems that the "(or even the same timer)" part is not true in
>> practice.  From looking at timer-event-handler this makes sense - it
>> looks like we remove the timer from timer-list before running it.  So
>> timers don't run concurrently with themselves.  Which since it's already
>> the case, we might as well formalize, since it's useful for Lisp
>> programmers...
>
> You cannot formalize that because a timer function can activate the
> same timer again.

Sure, but that's an explicit opt-in to running the timer again.  The
semantics could be "While a timer function is running, that timer is
deactivated; if you activate the timer in the timer function, it may run
again concurrently with the first run."

> Also, there's a window before timer-event-handler removes the time
> during which the same timer can still run.

There are many ways to get rid of that window.




  reply	other threads:[~2023-07-04 16:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-06-27 21:55 call-process should not block process filters from running Spencer Baugh
2023-06-28 11:39 ` Mattias Engdegård
2023-06-28 11:56 ` Po Lu
2023-06-28 12:08   ` Spencer Baugh
2023-06-28 13:17     ` Po Lu
2023-06-28 12:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-28 13:27   ` Spencer Baugh
2023-06-28 13:34     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-01 18:24     ` Spencer Baugh
2023-07-01 18:59       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-01 19:17         ` Spencer Baugh
2023-07-02  5:45           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-03  0:02             ` sbaugh
2023-07-03 10:00               ` Po Lu
2023-07-03 17:53                 ` sbaugh
2023-07-03 18:51                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-03 20:28                     ` sbaugh
2023-07-04  4:12                       ` Po Lu
2023-07-04 11:25                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-04 12:42                         ` sbaugh
2023-07-04 13:42                           ` Michael Albinus
2023-07-04 14:16                             ` sbaugh
2023-07-05  6:36                               ` Michael Albinus
2023-07-04 11:10                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-04 12:20                         ` sbaugh
2023-07-04 13:09                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-04 13:37                             ` sbaugh
2023-07-04 13:25                           ` Po Lu
2023-07-04  1:04                     ` sbaugh
2023-07-04  4:09                       ` Po Lu
2023-07-04 12:27                         ` sbaugh
2023-07-04 13:22                           ` Po Lu
2023-07-04 13:51                             ` sbaugh
2023-07-04 16:38                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-04 16:53                                 ` sbaugh [this message]
2023-07-04 17:14                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-04 16:49               ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-07-04 18:12                 ` sbaugh
2023-07-05 18:53                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-07-06  2:24                     ` sbaugh
2023-07-06  8:06                       ` Michael Albinus
2023-07-08 15:54                         ` sbaugh
2023-07-09  9:04                           ` Michael Albinus

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