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From: Amin Bandali <bandali@gnu.org>
To: "J.P." <jp@neverwas.me>
Cc: 29108@debbugs.gnu.org, emacs-erc@gnu.org
Subject: bug#29108: 25.3; ERC SASL support
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2022 00:19:22 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87iliyz6at.fsf__13729.9767973431$1669699236$gmane$org@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87wn7jgkne.fsf@neverwas.me>

Hey!

J.P. writes:

[...]
>
> Thanks for bailing me out. (This was fast becoming the "Swingers
> answering machine" of bug threads.)

Ahaha no problem ;-)

>> All but one of them were committed without any additional changes; and
>> that one was 0006-Add-non-IRCv3-SASL-module-to-ERC.patch, where I just
>> added the missing entries for doc/misc/erc.texi and etc/ERC-NEWS to
>> the commit message.
>
> Oof. Thanks. I also forgot the bug number on
>
>   0007-Accept-functions-in-place-of-passwords-in-ERC.patch
>
> despite being kindly warned of that eventuality.

Ah, no worries; I missed that as well.

[...]
>
> Right. Too cryptic. I've adjusted things in the second patch but am
> happy to redo/revise, as always. (The first patch contains a bug fix.)
>
[...]
>
> Good call. I've attempted something like that in a separate "examples"
> section (2nd patch). I'm hesitant about the last, "multi-network"
> example, though. It sort of implies we're committing to supporting
> let-binding as a means of specifying per-network local-module options,
> going forward, which maybe also puts us on the hook for (eventually)
> providing a mechanism to make options bookkeeping easier for would-be
> local-module authors. OTOH, neither of those is as yet a realistic
> problem.
>
> Speaking of maintenance burdens, I think `erc-sasl-password' is too
> overloaded and unwieldy, particularly WRT the "non-nil symbol" form. And
> falling back on `:id' is redundant because `erc-auth-source-search'
> already does that. So, as penance for my ugly API design, I've attached
> a (third) patch that tries to corral some of the crazy by adding an
> optional auth-source query function to house the more nuanced
> functionality (for those actually wanting it) while sparing everyone
> else the needless complexity. (That's the idea, anyway.)

Thanks!  Yeah, I don't really see supporting let-binds as too big of a
potential future burden.  Worst case scenario, if/when local modules
are fully implemented and we and/or module authors find supporting
let-binding impractical, or there are clear advantages in not having
them, we could drop them in a major version bump (ERC 6.0 anyone?)
along with any other potential breaking change we might want to make.

Also your simplification sounds good.  I pushed the v2 of all three
patches from your other reply to emacs-29.  Thanks again!

>> Many thanks for all of your work on implementing and landing SASL
>> support for ERC, a feature that many ERC users (myself included)
>> have wished for and looked forward to seeing in ERC for years!
>>
>> -amin
>
> My pleasure! (Although I should've been quicker to admit that my older
> POC efforts weren't suitable for prime time without serious reworking.)
>

Cheers!

-a





  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-11-29  5:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-11-01 20:07 bug#29108: 25.3; ERC SASL support Alex Branham
2017-11-10  2:24 ` Noam Postavsky
2019-10-23  9:24   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-10-23 10:34     ` Alex Branham
2019-10-23 11:19       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-10-23 12:19         ` Stefan Kangas
2019-10-23 12:57           ` Noam Postavsky
2019-10-23 13:32             ` Stefan Kangas
2019-11-02 14:10         ` Stefan Kangas
2020-08-03  9:39           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-07-28 16:59 ` Ulrich Mueller
2021-07-28 17:21   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-28 22:42   ` J.P.
2021-08-09  9:59   ` J.P.
2021-08-09 10:22     ` Ulrich Mueller
2021-08-09 10:56       ` J.P.
2021-08-09 12:39       ` J.P.
2021-08-23 13:47     ` J.P.
     [not found]     ` <87o89oi87g.fsf@neverwas.me>
2021-08-23 14:01       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
     [not found]       ` <87zgt8s1jt.fsf@gnus.org>
2021-08-24 13:42         ` J.P.
2022-09-18 18:32 ` bug#29108: [J.P.] Add "non-IRCv3" SASL to ERC J.P.
2022-09-20  6:07   ` bug#29108: 25.3; ERC SASL support J.P.
     [not found]   ` <875yhifujk.fsf_-_@neverwas.me>
2022-09-21 13:13     ` J.P.
2022-10-14  3:05       ` J.P.
     [not found]       ` <878rljxfxs.fsf@neverwas.me>
2022-10-26 13:14         ` J.P.
     [not found]         ` <87k04m4th8.fsf@neverwas.me>
2022-11-08 14:10           ` J.P.
     [not found]           ` <87o7thlepf.fsf@neverwas.me>
2022-11-09  4:08             ` Akib Azmain Turja via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-11-09 13:49               ` J.P.
     [not found]               ` <874jv81bn2.fsf@neverwas.me>
2022-11-09 17:50                 ` Akib Azmain Turja via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
     [not found]                 ` <87iljoqaor.fsf@disroot.org>
2022-11-10  5:28                   ` J.P.
     [not found]                   ` <87sfirml89.fsf@neverwas.me>
2022-11-10 18:04                     ` Adam Porter
2022-11-10 21:50                       ` J.P.
2022-11-11  5:51                       ` Akib Azmain Turja via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-11-14 22:28                         ` Adam Porter
     [not found]                       ` <87sfiq7a3j.fsf@neverwas.me>
2022-11-11  1:25                         ` Adam Porter
2022-11-11  5:56                         ` Akib Azmain Turja via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
     [not found]                         ` <878rkighkn.fsf@disroot.org>
2022-11-14 22:29                           ` Adam Porter
2022-11-13 15:36             ` J.P.
     [not found]             ` <87o7taoohd.fsf@neverwas.me>
2022-11-14  6:45               ` J.P.
2022-11-14 15:20                 ` J.P.
     [not found]                 ` <87y1sdk1fg.fsf@neverwas.me>
2022-11-16 14:51                   ` J.P.
     [not found]                   ` <875yfflzps.fsf@neverwas.me>
2022-11-17  6:30                     ` J.P.
     [not found]                     ` <877czuks8k.fsf@neverwas.me>
2022-11-17 15:28                       ` J.P.
2022-11-18  2:26                     ` J.P.
     [not found]                     ` <878rk9576b.fsf@neverwas.me>
2022-11-18 14:06                       ` J.P.
     [not found]                       ` <87leo8z79j.fsf@neverwas.me>
2022-11-19 14:48                         ` J.P.
     [not found]                         ` <87tu2vroeh.fsf@neverwas.me>
2022-11-20 14:29                           ` J.P.
     [not found]                           ` <87wn7pog1l.fsf@neverwas.me>
2022-11-21 15:09                             ` J.P.
     [not found]                             ` <87y1s4mjj6.fsf@neverwas.me>
2022-11-22 14:01                               ` J.P.
     [not found]                               ` <87r0xvks03.fsf@neverwas.me>
2022-11-24  2:49                                 ` Amin Bandali
     [not found]                                 ` <87r0xtnk24.fsf@gnu.org>
2022-11-25 14:43                                   ` J.P.
     [not found]                                   ` <87wn7jgkne.fsf@neverwas.me>
2022-11-28  0:08                                     ` J.P.
2022-11-29  5:19                                     ` Amin Bandali [this message]
     [not found]                                     ` <87iliyz6at.fsf@gnu.org>
2022-11-29 15:05                                       ` J.P.

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