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From: "J.P." <jp@neverwas.me>
To: 29108@debbugs.gnu.org
Cc: emacs-erc@gnu.org, bandali@gnu.org
Subject: bug#29108: 25.3; ERC SASL support
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2022 18:26:52 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <878rk9576b.fsf__7754.22398453287$1668738500$gmane$org@neverwas.me> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <875yfflzps.fsf@neverwas.me> (J. P.'s message of "Wed, 16 Nov 2022 06:51:27 -0800")

"J.P." <jp@neverwas.me> writes:

> An earlier version mentioned that users can customize per-network SASL
> settings by let-binding `erc-sasl-*' options and `erc-modules' around
> `erc-tls' invocations. I'm doubtful this is a sustainable approach and
> would guess that a more declarative solution is the likeliest way
> forward, perhaps something based on connection-local variables.
> 
> That said, I think users still need a practical solution to tide them
> over in the short term, one that doesn't involve hooks or timers.

Actually, now I'm thinking an even earlier version (from bug#49860) had
the most sensible approach for per-network SASL settings all along, and
that's simply recognizing `:user' and `:password' symbols as values for
`erc-sasl-user' and `erc-sasl-password' (possibly even as defaults). The
module then just uses whatever's stored in `erc-session-username' and
`erc-session-password' (and obviously inhibits the sending of a server
password).

> And since this module already takes a snapshot of its own options on
> initialization (for reconnection purposes), we might as well revert to
> mentioning let-binding, but this time also stress (maybe in an
> Advanced chapter) that local modules are still being fleshed out and
> that third-party implementations aren't yet encouraged.

Given the other realization above, I guess it's no surprise that I've
again flip-flopped on mentioning let-binding and have reverted to the
opinion that we shouldn't officially commit to local modules at all and
should minimize advertising their presence and behavior until we've
arrived at a workable solution for granular (network/nick/channel-aware)
user options.





  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-11-18  2:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-11-01 20:07 bug#29108: 25.3; ERC SASL support Alex Branham
2017-11-10  2:24 ` Noam Postavsky
2019-10-23  9:24   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-10-23 10:34     ` Alex Branham
2019-10-23 11:19       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-10-23 12:19         ` Stefan Kangas
2019-10-23 12:57           ` Noam Postavsky
2019-10-23 13:32             ` Stefan Kangas
2019-11-02 14:10         ` Stefan Kangas
2020-08-03  9:39           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-07-28 16:59 ` Ulrich Mueller
2021-07-28 17:21   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-28 22:42   ` J.P.
2021-08-09  9:59   ` J.P.
2021-08-09 10:22     ` Ulrich Mueller
2021-08-09 10:56       ` J.P.
2021-08-09 12:39       ` J.P.
2021-08-23 13:47     ` J.P.
     [not found]     ` <87o89oi87g.fsf@neverwas.me>
2021-08-23 14:01       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
     [not found]       ` <87zgt8s1jt.fsf@gnus.org>
2021-08-24 13:42         ` J.P.
2022-09-18 18:32 ` bug#29108: [J.P.] Add "non-IRCv3" SASL to ERC J.P.
2022-09-20  6:07   ` bug#29108: 25.3; ERC SASL support J.P.
     [not found]   ` <875yhifujk.fsf_-_@neverwas.me>
2022-09-21 13:13     ` J.P.
2022-10-14  3:05       ` J.P.
     [not found]       ` <878rljxfxs.fsf@neverwas.me>
2022-10-26 13:14         ` J.P.
     [not found]         ` <87k04m4th8.fsf@neverwas.me>
2022-11-08 14:10           ` J.P.
     [not found]           ` <87o7thlepf.fsf@neverwas.me>
2022-11-09  4:08             ` Akib Azmain Turja via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-11-09 13:49               ` J.P.
     [not found]               ` <874jv81bn2.fsf@neverwas.me>
2022-11-09 17:50                 ` Akib Azmain Turja via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
     [not found]                 ` <87iljoqaor.fsf@disroot.org>
2022-11-10  5:28                   ` J.P.
     [not found]                   ` <87sfirml89.fsf@neverwas.me>
2022-11-10 18:04                     ` Adam Porter
2022-11-10 21:50                       ` J.P.
     [not found]                       ` <87sfiq7a3j.fsf@neverwas.me>
2022-11-11  1:25                         ` Adam Porter
2022-11-11  5:56                         ` Akib Azmain Turja via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
     [not found]                         ` <878rkighkn.fsf@disroot.org>
2022-11-14 22:29                           ` Adam Porter
2022-11-11  5:51                       ` Akib Azmain Turja via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-11-14 22:28                         ` Adam Porter
2022-11-13 15:36             ` J.P.
     [not found]             ` <87o7taoohd.fsf@neverwas.me>
2022-11-14  6:45               ` J.P.
2022-11-14 15:20                 ` J.P.
     [not found]                 ` <87y1sdk1fg.fsf@neverwas.me>
2022-11-16 14:51                   ` J.P.
     [not found]                   ` <875yfflzps.fsf@neverwas.me>
2022-11-17  6:30                     ` J.P.
     [not found]                     ` <877czuks8k.fsf@neverwas.me>
2022-11-17 15:28                       ` J.P.
2022-11-18  2:26                     ` J.P. [this message]
     [not found]                     ` <878rk9576b.fsf@neverwas.me>
2022-11-18 14:06                       ` J.P.
     [not found]                       ` <87leo8z79j.fsf@neverwas.me>
2022-11-19 14:48                         ` J.P.
     [not found]                         ` <87tu2vroeh.fsf@neverwas.me>
2022-11-20 14:29                           ` J.P.
     [not found]                           ` <87wn7pog1l.fsf@neverwas.me>
2022-11-21 15:09                             ` J.P.
     [not found]                             ` <87y1s4mjj6.fsf@neverwas.me>
2022-11-22 14:01                               ` J.P.
     [not found]                               ` <87r0xvks03.fsf@neverwas.me>
2022-11-24  2:49                                 ` Amin Bandali
     [not found]                                 ` <87r0xtnk24.fsf@gnu.org>
2022-11-25 14:43                                   ` J.P.
     [not found]                                   ` <87wn7jgkne.fsf@neverwas.me>
2022-11-28  0:08                                     ` J.P.
2022-11-29  5:19                                     ` Amin Bandali
     [not found]                                     ` <87iliyz6at.fsf@gnu.org>
2022-11-29 15:05                                       ` J.P.

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