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From: "J.P." <jp@neverwas.me>
To: Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net>
Cc: emacs-erc@gnu.org, Amin Bandali <bandali@gnu.org>,
	Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
	68660@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#68660: 29.2; ELPA: Wrong type argument w. multiple maintainers in package-menu-mode
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2024 17:58:54 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87eddfg61t.fsf__32889.3313695275$1707876004$gmane$org@neverwas.me> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87ttmssxok.fsf@neverwas.me> (J. P.'s message of "Wed, 31 Jan 2024 18:52:43 -0800")

Hi Philip,

"J.P." <jp@neverwas.me> writes:

>>> Please let me know if anything is required from ERC to make this a
>>> reality. And, of course, I very much appreciate your taking the time.
>>
>> Nothing specific on ERC's side, no.
>> But patches for `elpa-admin.el` and for Emacs would be welcome
>> (tho extra time would be welcome as well :-)
>
> As far as patches go, I unfortunately remain rather uninitiated to the
> mysteries of this package system and doubt I can up my game sufficiently
> enough to amount to anything more than a sad annoyance. However, I can
> try harassing other package.el folk to see if any among them might bend.
> Thanks.

You seem to be among the more active Emacs contributors in and around
package.el and GNU ELPA, so I suppose I'm asking if you wouldn't mind
weighing in on this when you get a chance.

To summarize, I've belatedly discovered that once ERC 5.6 is released,
the more-or-less widely acknowledged [1] "baseline" package-upgrade
method (of manually navigating the `package-menu-mode' UI from M-x
list-packages) won't actually work on any ERC-supported Emacs release
(currently 27+) even though it's the one method recommended in ERC's
docs (expressly because it was perceived as being fail-safe). And while
C-u M-x package-install RET does in fact work on Emacs 29, it's sadly
not documented in the ERC manual that ships with 29.2.

Stefan has suggested renaming the `:maintainer' item in the `extras'
slot of `package-desc' objects to `:maintainers' (plural). IIUC, this
would have the effect of solving the issue by omitting the "Maintainer:"
line item in *Help* buffers produced by `package-menu-describe-package'
and friends for all packages on all Emacs versions below 30.1. Full
remediation would, I think, also require that foo-pkg.el files and
/archive-contents data hosted on elpa.gnu.org reflect the newer format.

To help move this process along, Stefan has called for patches, but I
unfortunately am unable to reciprocate because I lack the wherewithal.
Hoping you're able to assist in this regard either directly, with code,
or by pointing out specific areas in the Emacs code base (and possibly
elpa-admin's as well) that would need addressing.

TIA,
J.P.

[1] https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-gnu-emacs/2024-01/msg01575.html





  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-02-14  1:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-01-22 14:56 bug#68660: 29.2; ELPA: Wrong type argument w. multiple maintainers in package-menu-mode J.P.
2024-01-22 15:23 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
     [not found] ` <jwvjzo11jh2.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>
2024-01-23 14:57   ` J.P.
     [not found]   ` <87o7dcm718.fsf@neverwas.me>
2024-01-23 19:48     ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
     [not found]     ` <jwvplxrx2be.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>
2024-01-23 22:34       ` J.P.
     [not found]       ` <87le8fisqg.fsf@neverwas.me>
2024-01-24  0:55         ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
     [not found]         ` <jwvv87jsgfz.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>
2024-01-24  1:22           ` J.P.
     [not found]           ` <87ede7frtz.fsf@neverwas.me>
2024-01-24 14:31             ` J.P.
     [not found]             ` <87y1ceby5w.fsf@neverwas.me>
2024-01-24 15:41               ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
     [not found]               ` <jwv5xziyc60.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>
2024-01-24 17:57                 ` J.P.
     [not found]                 ` <877cjyaa31.fsf@neverwas.me>
2024-01-27 20:30                   ` Amin Bandali
2024-01-31 19:24                   ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
     [not found]                   ` <jwvr0hxtinl.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>
2024-02-01  2:52                     ` J.P.
     [not found]                     ` <87ttmssxok.fsf@neverwas.me>
2024-02-14  1:58                       ` J.P. [this message]
     [not found]                       ` <87eddfg61t.fsf@neverwas.me>
2024-02-14 16:59                         ` Philip Kaludercic
     [not found]                         ` <87a5o3gexk.fsf@posteo.net>
2024-02-14 19:15                           ` J.P.
     [not found]                           ` <877cj6eu2t.fsf@neverwas.me>
2024-02-14 20:08                             ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
     [not found]                             ` <jwvmss2lsgn.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>
2024-02-14 20:54                               ` J.P.

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