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P.'s message of "Wed, 31 Jan 2024 18:52:43 -0800") X-Authenticated-Id: masked@neverwas.me X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:279991 Archived-At: Hi Philip, "J.P." writes: >>> Please let me know if anything is required from ERC to make this a >>> reality. And, of course, I very much appreciate your taking the time. >> >> Nothing specific on ERC's side, no. >> But patches for `elpa-admin.el` and for Emacs would be welcome >> (tho extra time would be welcome as well :-) > > As far as patches go, I unfortunately remain rather uninitiated to the > mysteries of this package system and doubt I can up my game sufficiently > enough to amount to anything more than a sad annoyance. However, I can > try harassing other package.el folk to see if any among them might bend. > Thanks. You seem to be among the more active Emacs contributors in and around package.el and GNU ELPA, so I suppose I'm asking if you wouldn't mind weighing in on this when you get a chance. To summarize, I've belatedly discovered that once ERC 5.6 is released, the more-or-less widely acknowledged [1] "baseline" package-upgrade method (of manually navigating the `package-menu-mode' UI from M-x list-packages) won't actually work on any ERC-supported Emacs release (currently 27+) even though it's the one method recommended in ERC's docs (expressly because it was perceived as being fail-safe). And while C-u M-x package-install RET does in fact work on Emacs 29, it's sadly not documented in the ERC manual that ships with 29.2. Stefan has suggested renaming the `:maintainer' item in the `extras' slot of `package-desc' objects to `:maintainers' (plural). IIUC, this would have the effect of solving the issue by omitting the "Maintainer:" line item in *Help* buffers produced by `package-menu-describe-package' and friends for all packages on all Emacs versions below 30.1. Full remediation would, I think, also require that foo-pkg.el files and /archive-contents data hosted on elpa.gnu.org reflect the newer format. To help move this process along, Stefan has called for patches, but I unfortunately am unable to reciprocate because I lack the wherewithal. Hoping you're able to assist in this regard either directly, with code, or by pointing out specific areas in the Emacs code base (and possibly elpa-admin's as well) that would need addressing. TIA, J.P. [1] https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-gnu-emacs/2024-01/msg01575.html