Emacs As a Wayland WM? Re: Abysmal state of GTK build

Emacs As a Wayland WM? Re: Abysmal state of GTK build

[T.V Raman]

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Suppose we: ...

1. Look forward to the Wayland-only world (ie No X) I know that will be
   a while...
2. But suppose, in that world, we could write an Emacs Window Manager
   (whatever that means under Wayland) ...
3 Will things get easier in that somewhat pure world where one doesn't
   have to both look backwards and forwards as we are apparently forced
   to do right now?

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Re: Emacs As a Wayland WM? Re: Abysmal state of GTK build

[Robert Pluim]

>>>>> On Mon, 05 Sep 2022 07:29:59 -0700, "T.V Raman" <raman@google.com> said:

    T> Suppose we: ...
    T> 1. Look forward to the Wayland-only world (ie No X) I know that will be
    T>    a while...
    T> 2. But suppose, in that world, we could write an Emacs Window Manager
    T>    (whatever that means under Wayland) ...
    T> 3 Will things get easier in that somewhat pure world where one doesn't
    T>    have to both look backwards and forwards as we are apparently forced
    T>    to do right now?

I donʼt know about the equivalent of exwm, but forking wlroots and
fixing up some of the more egregious annoyances might be doable.

Robert
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Re: Emacs As a Wayland WM? Re: Abysmal state of GTK build

[Payas Relekar]

Robert Pluim <rpluim@gmail.com> writes:

>>>>>> On Mon, 05 Sep 2022 07:29:59 -0700, "T.V Raman" <raman@google.com> said:
>
>     T> Suppose we: ...
>     T> 1. Look forward to the Wayland-only world (ie No X) I know that will be
>     T>    a while...
>     T> 2. But suppose, in that world, we could write an Emacs Window Manager
>     T>    (whatever that means under Wayland) ...
>     T> 3 Will things get easier in that somewhat pure world where one doesn't
>     T>    have to both look backwards and forwards as we are apparently forced
>     T>    to do right now?
>
> I donʼt know about the equivalent of exwm, but forking wlroots and
> fixing up some of the more egregious annoyances might be doable.

What annoyances can you think of? AFAIK wlroots was made to be used by
other WMs, of which there are few. None as prominant as Sway, but
they're there. The authors(Drew and Simon) have been fairly responsive to accommodate
requirements of other WMs and maybe we can communicate instead of hard
fork.

Thanks,
Payas

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Re: Emacs As a Wayland WM? Re: Abysmal state of GTK build

[Robert Pluim]

>>>>> On Mon, 05 Sep 2022 21:04:05 +0530, Payas Relekar <relekarpayas@gmail.com> said:

    Payas> Robert Pluim <rpluim@gmail.com> writes:
    >>>>>>> On Mon, 05 Sep 2022 07:29:59 -0700, "T.V Raman" <raman@google.com> said:
    >> 
    T> Suppose we: ...
    T> 1. Look forward to the Wayland-only world (ie No X) I know that will be
    T> a while...
    T> 2. But suppose, in that world, we could write an Emacs Window Manager
    T> (whatever that means under Wayland) ...
    T> 3 Will things get easier in that somewhat pure world where one doesn't
    T> have to both look backwards and forwards as we are apparently forced
    T> to do right now?
    >> 
    >> I donʼt know about the equivalent of exwm, but forking wlroots and
    >> fixing up some of the more egregious annoyances might be doable.

    Payas> What annoyances can you think of? AFAIK wlroots was made to be used by
    Payas> other WMs, of which there are few. None as prominant as Sway, but
    Payas> they're there. The authors(Drew and Simon) have been fairly responsive to accommodate
    Payas> requirements of other WMs and maybe we can communicate instead of hard
    Payas> fork.

Not being allowed to tell the WM what coordinates you want new
top-level windows to be placed at is the first one that springs to
mind. Although that may be a Wayland issue rather than a wlroots
issue.

Robert
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