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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net>
Cc: relekarpayas@gmail.com, gregory@heytings.org, rms@gnu.org,
	m.eliachevitch@posteo.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Grammar checking
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2023 17:19:42 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83y1nd0zr5.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87pm8p9hh1.fsf@localhost> (message from Ihor Radchenko on Fri, 31 Mar 2023 13:29:46 +0000)

> From: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net>
> Cc: relekarpayas@gmail.com, gregory@heytings.org, rms@gnu.org,
>  m.eliachevitch@posteo.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2023 13:29:46 +0000
> 
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
> 
> >> I am using it in real-life scenarios for authoring.
> >> LanguageTool the most sophisticated Libre grammar checker around, AFAIK.
> >
> > That's not enough, IMO.  It should be good in absolute terms, not in
> > relative terms.
> 
> Well. It is hard for me to judge in absolute terms. I can only compare
> with my own grammar checking by hand (Langtool is better), with feedback
> from others (no significant issues after using Langtool; but it does not
> tell much), and with Grammarly (it was still able to find some valid
> issues after Langtool). What would be the absolute benchmark to test
> "how good is Langtool"?

I'm quite sure such benchmarks already exist out there.  We don't need
to invent them.



  reply	other threads:[~2023-03-31 14:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-03-31  7:46 Grammar checking Payas Relekar
2023-03-31 11:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-31 12:55   ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-03-31 13:11     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-31 13:29       ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-03-31 14:19         ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2023-04-02  3:11       ` Richard Stallman
2023-03-31 12:59   ` Gregory Heytings
2023-03-31 13:20     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-31 13:59       ` Gregory Heytings
2023-03-31 14:28         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-31 14:24       ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-03-31 14:39         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-01  6:52           ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-04-01  7:00             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-01  7:10               ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-04-01  7:14                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-01 13:09             ` Peter Oliver
2023-04-01 13:17               ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-04-01 13:24                 ` Peter Oliver
2023-04-01 13:32                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-04-01 13:42                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-01 13:41                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-03 13:02                     ` Peter Oliver
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2023-04-03  5:52 grammar checking Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2023-04-03 13:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-03 15:01   ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2023-03-31 10:03 Grammar checking Payas Relekar
2023-03-29  3:00 jinx Richard Stallman
2023-03-29 22:46 ` jinx Michael Eliachevitch
2023-03-31  4:29   ` jinx Richard Stallman
2023-03-31  6:51     ` jinx Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-31  7:10       ` jinx Gregory Heytings
2023-03-31  7:15         ` Grammar checking (was: jinx) Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-31  7:47           ` Grammar checking Philip Kaludercic
2023-03-31  8:09             ` Gregory Heytings
2023-03-31  8:38               ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-03-31  9:02                 ` Gregory Heytings
2023-03-31 11:37               ` Lynn Winebarger
2023-03-31 12:01                 ` Gregory Heytings
2023-03-31 12:45                   ` Peter Oliver
2023-03-31 15:29                     ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-03-31 17:00                       ` Peter Oliver
2023-03-31 12:54               ` Peter Oliver
2023-03-31 13:09                 ` Gregory Heytings
2023-03-31 11:23             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-31 12:12               ` Peter Oliver
2023-03-31 15:25               ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-03-31  8:40           ` Nasser Alkmim
2023-03-31  8:45             ` Michael Eliachevitch
2023-03-31 13:44               ` Felician Nemeth
2023-03-31 16:03               ` Peter Oliver
2023-03-31  8:48             ` Gregory Heytings
2023-04-01 12:59               ` Lynn Winebarger
2023-04-01 13:18                 ` Gregory Heytings
2023-04-01 13:37                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-01 17:30                   ` Lynn Winebarger
2023-04-01 17:35                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-02  3:12                 ` Richard Stallman
2023-04-02 15:24                   ` Lynn Winebarger
2023-04-03  3:05                     ` Richard Stallman
2023-04-03  3:05                     ` Richard Stallman
2023-04-06 12:29                       ` Lynn Winebarger
2023-04-08  3:28                         ` Richard Stallman
2023-04-08 13:33                           ` Lynn Winebarger
2023-04-08 13:23                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-08  3:28                         ` Richard Stallman
2023-04-08 14:23                           ` Lynn Winebarger
2023-04-08  3:28                         ` Richard Stallman
2023-04-08 15:20                           ` Lynn Winebarger
2023-04-19  5:13                             ` Richard Stallman
2023-04-09  9:02                           ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-04-09 12:31                             ` Lynn Winebarger
2023-04-22  2:22                               ` Richard Stallman
2023-04-23  2:25                                 ` Richard Stallman
2023-04-23 14:14                                 ` Lynn Winebarger
2023-03-31 10:59             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-02  3:11               ` Richard Stallman
2023-04-02  3:40                 ` Emanuel Berg

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