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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Payas Relekar <relekarpayas@gmail.com>
Cc: rms@gnu.org, philipk@posteo.net, susam.pal@gmail.com,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [NonGNU ELPA] New package: devil
Date: Thu, 11 May 2023 09:33:02 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83y1lv5qe9.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87ttwjbfqq.fsf@gmail.com> (message from Payas Relekar on Thu, 11 May 2023 10:53:15 +0530)

> From: Payas Relekar <relekarpayas@gmail.com>
> Cc: Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net>,  susam.pal@gmail.com,
>  emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Thu, 11 May 2023 10:53:15 +0530
> 
> Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> writes:
> 
> > Why use the name "Devil" for this?  It doesn't seen to explain anything
> > about the package's purpose.  It is likely to put some people off.
> 
> Every name is going to put someone or another off, can't really help it.
> OpenBSD has their daemon and there are already funny anecdotes about it,
> but it doesn't hurt anyone.

"daemon" is a term whose meaning in computing context is widely
accepted for many years.  "Devil' isn't.

> > If there is no clear reason why "Devil" is a good name, let's choose
> > a better name now.
> 
> As mentioned by Susam in previous mail, as well as the repo README, the
> name refers both to 'eVil' (extensible Vi Layer) as well as 'God-mode'.

People are extremely unlikely to understand that, even if they know
about Evil in Emacs.  And even if they do figure out this is related
to Evil, the truth is that the package is not meant to be used by
users of Evil.

> The name is distinct, and I like it for what it is.

Please reconsider, I think this name is very unfortunate, because it
gives users no clue whatsoever about the package's purpose.

Thanks.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-05-11  6:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-05-11  5:23 [NonGNU ELPA] New package: devil Payas Relekar
2023-05-11  6:26 ` Po Lu
2023-05-11  6:33 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2023-05-11  6:52   ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-05-11  7:07     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-12 15:02       ` Brian Cully via Emacs development discussions.
2023-05-11  8:09     ` Susam Pal
2023-05-11  8:45       ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-05-11  8:58         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-11  9:08           ` Susam Pal
2023-05-11  9:12             ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-05-11  9:19               ` Susam Pal
2023-05-11  9:34                 ` Ruijie Yu via Emacs development discussions.
2023-05-11 10:09                   ` Susam Pal
2023-05-11 10:31                     ` Susam Pal
2023-05-11 10:36             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-11  8:56       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-12 16:19   ` Jim Porter
2023-05-13  7:10     ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-05-13  9:05       ` Susam Pal
2023-05-15 22:12         ` Richard Stallman
2023-05-17 13:30         ` João Távora
2023-05-17 14:06           ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-05-17 15:41             ` João Távora
2023-05-17 15:46               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-13 22:30     ` Richard Stallman
2023-05-14  4:29       ` Naming guidelines for ELPA packages (was: Re: [NonGNU ELPA] New package: devil) Jim Porter
2023-05-14  7:47         ` Naming guidelines for ELPA packages Philip Kaludercic
2023-05-14 19:23           ` Jim Porter
2023-05-14 19:33             ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-05-19  3:49               ` Jim Porter
2023-05-19  4:33                 ` Akib Azmain Turja
2023-05-20 16:51                   ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-05-21 21:03                   ` Richard Stallman
2023-05-14 21:36         ` Stefan Monnier via Emacs development discussions.
2023-05-14 22:17           ` Jim Porter
2023-05-14 23:00             ` Stefan Monnier
2023-05-15  1:36               ` Jim Porter
2023-05-15 22:15         ` Naming guidelines for ELPA packages (was: Re: [NonGNU ELPA] New package: devil) Richard Stallman
2023-05-15 22:15         ` Richard Stallman
2023-05-16  4:51           ` Jim Porter
2023-05-16  8:42           ` Naming guidelines for ELPA packages Madhu
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2023-05-09  1:57 [NonGNU ELPA] New package: devil Susam Pal
2023-05-09  8:42 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-05-09  8:52   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-09  8:58     ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-05-09 18:19       ` chad
2023-05-09 22:07         ` Susam Pal
2023-05-09 20:56   ` Susam Pal
2023-05-10  6:09     ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-05-10 21:00       ` Susam Pal
2023-05-10 21:56       ` Richard Stallman

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