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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Spencer Baugh <sbaugh@janestreet.com>
Cc: dmitry@gutov.dev, 62621@debbugs.gnu.org, sbaugh@catern.com
Subject: bug#62621: 29.0.60; uniquify can't make buffers unique based on things other than filename
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2023 16:25:52 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83v8eg3ue7.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ierpm4ow0aj.fsf@janestreet.com> (message from Spencer Baugh on Wed, 19 Jul 2023 08:31:00 -0400)

> From: Spencer Baugh <sbaugh@janestreet.com>
> Cc: Dmitry Gutov <dmitry@gutov.dev>,  sbaugh@catern.com,  62621@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2023 08:31:00 -0400
> 
> >> >>> Repeat after me: Use options whose values are functions
> >> >>> are hard on our users, because they require them to be Lisp
> >> >>> programmers.
> >> >> That doesn't have to be the case. If the defcustom's docstring mentions
> >> >> several functions that can be used, and the :type widget includes them
> >> >> as well, the user can decide to switch to any of them without writing
> >> >> any Lisp (or having to understand the implementations).
> >> > But that was not so in this particular case.
> >> 
> >> That's easy to fix, as long as you don't have additional objections to 
> >> that approach.
> >
> > I'd need to see the fix first, because I don't think I have a clear
> > idea of what you have in mind.
> >
> > (My objections, btw, where very minor and of pure usability nature.
> > Frankly, I'm surprised such a simple and more-or-less agreed-upon
> > comment got such a long thread of discussing various loosely-related
> > issues.)
> 
> Like this:

Thanks, but it still falls short of what Dmitry described above: the
doc string doesn't "mention several functions that can be used".

> +(defcustom uniquify-dirname-transform #'identity
> +  "Function to transform buffer's directory for uniquifying its name.
> +
> +It takes a single argument: the directory of the buffer.  It
> +should return a string filename (which does not need to actually
> +exist in the filesystem) to use for uniquifying the buffer name."

Please read this carefully and try to put yourself in the shoes of a
user who needs to make sense out of this description.  The immediate
question I had is what does "transforming a buffer's directory" have
to do with "uniquifying the buffer name"?  Uniquifying a buffer's name
is not about its directory, at least not in general.  IOW, the
starting point of this description is too "inside" the implementation.





  reply	other threads:[~2023-07-19 13:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-04-02 17:37 bug#62621: 29.0.60; uniquify can't make buffers unique based on things other than filename Spencer Baugh
2023-04-02 17:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-02 21:59   ` Drew Adams
2023-04-02 18:25 ` Juri Linkov
2023-04-14 16:08 ` Spencer Baugh
2023-07-13 22:51 ` sbaugh
2023-07-14  6:29   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-14 11:28     ` sbaugh
2023-07-14 12:01       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-14 12:20         ` Spencer Baugh
2023-07-14 12:29           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-14 12:46             ` Spencer Baugh
2023-07-14 13:51               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-14 14:14                 ` Spencer Baugh
2023-07-14 19:10                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-14 19:15                     ` sbaugh
2023-07-15  5:42                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-15  6:20                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-18  0:19                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-07-18  1:37               ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-07-18 16:03                 ` Spencer Baugh
2023-07-19  2:47                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-07-19  6:56                     ` Juri Linkov
2023-07-18 17:51                 ` Juri Linkov
2023-07-19  2:24                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-07-14 16:31           ` Juri Linkov
2023-07-18  0:34     ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-07-18 11:07       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-19  2:22         ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-07-19 12:14           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-19 12:31             ` Spencer Baugh
2023-07-19 13:25               ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2023-07-21 13:34                 ` Spencer Baugh
2023-07-21 14:37                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-22 18:00                     ` Spencer Baugh
2023-07-24 19:18                       ` Spencer Baugh
2023-07-26 15:18                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-03  8:00                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-03 11:54                             ` Spencer Baugh
2023-08-03 14:05                               ` Eli Zaretskii

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