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From: Christopher Dimech <dimech@gmx.com>
To: kreyren@rixotstudio.cz
Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
Subject: Re: no to war in Ukraine
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2022 12:35:43 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <trinity-2294fa98-c12c-4ce2-b418-fe95678c7eac-1645961743162@3c-app-mailcom-bs09> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <95a64961-9a77-bd7a-a4c2-77ae3f9e5bb7@rixotstudio.cz>


> Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2022 at 11:18 PM
> From: "Jacob Hrbek" <kreyren@rixotstudio.cz>
> To: "Dmitry Gutov" <dgutov@yandex.ru>, help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
> Subject: Re: no to war in Ukraine
>
>  > There is a lot of Free Software written by Russians that you are are 
> almost certainly using. Maybe not entirely but at least in part.  -- Gutov
> 
> I am slav with lot of russians and ukrainians friends you can't even 
> imagine how much this hurts me to do this as someone who loves and uses 
> Free Software in everything and who hates restrictions on privacy and 
> freedom and who is endlessly appreciate of all the work that russian 
> citizens did for Free Software and for me like all the helping that i 
> got with issues including kindness of submitting a patches for a 
> problems that i had, because I feel fucking sick and guilty, my mental 
> health is in absolute shit and i didn't sleep for more then 3 hours a 
> day since the war started blaming myself for all the work that i've done 
> on Free Software and in Free Software Activism in the last ~14 years, 
> because my work in Free Software contributed to the capability of 
> russian military to do this war to bomb cities full of my brothers and 
> sisters, killing newborns, children, elderly and committing war crimes 
> against unarmed citizens scared for their life who are hiding at their 
> homes.

Your work benefits everybody, remember that.  Don't let guilt turn you
into a vegetable.  Am quite sure that you have not done much direct work
for Putin that helps him coordinate his plan better.

Please continue with your good work.
 

>  > And not all of us support this terrible, unjust war. There are 
> anti-war protests all around the world, including Moscow and 
> Saint-Petersburg. -- Gutov
> 
> Russian citizens have a major role in this war i know the cost of 
> opposing putin in russia some of my family even experienced it first 
> hand in what happened before the Velvet Revolution in Czechia, but it's 
> no where near the cost that ukrainians are paying right now.
> 
> Please go join them and please convince others to do the same. The whole 
> world supports ukrainians and the whole world will support russians 
> overthrowing that war criminal in moscow, but there has to be more 
> people doing the protests and calling on the russian forces to oppose 
> their leader to do it.
> 
> On 2/27/22 02:10, Dmitry Gutov wrote:
> > On 27.02.2022 02:02, Jacob Hrbek wrote:
> >>   > FOSS people saying somewhere no to war?
> >>
> >> I do and I've made a statement on that in
> >> https://qoto.org/@kreyren/107851975317924221 in short taking steps to
> >> reduce russian access to my software and hardware by revoking the right
> >> to use, study, improve and distribute + considering to take identity
> >> verification and vetting for sensitive projects such as open-source
> >> aircraft that could be used as a drone.
> > There is a lot of Free Software written by Russians that you are are
> > almost certainly using. Maybe not entirely but at least in part.
> >
> > And not all of us support this terrible, unjust war. There are anti-war
> > protests all around the world, including Moscow and Saint-Petersburg.
> >
> > There are certain kinds of software that are more problematic than
> > others, though. For instance, face recognition software now currently
> > used by Russian government on its citizens was at some point written by
> > probably well-meaning developers. Given how quickly it has been
> > retargeted at protestors, I don't think it's a good idea to have *any*
> > country use such software. Though that ship has probably sailed.
> 
> -- 
> Jacob Hrbek, In support of ukraine sovereignty #supportUkraine
> 
>



  reply	other threads:[~2022-02-27 11:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 87+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-02-26 12:31 phantom invasion and ghostly resistance Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-02-26 14:36 ` Jean Louis
2022-02-27  8:57   ` Christopher Dimech
2022-02-26 23:57 ` no to war in Ukraine Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-02-27  0:02   ` Jacob Hrbek
2022-02-27  0:17     ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-02-27  0:18       ` Jacob Hrbek
2022-02-27  0:24         ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-02-27  0:59           ` Po Lu
2022-02-27  8:46         ` Alexandre Garreau
2022-02-28  9:17       ` butterfly effect Jean Louis
2022-03-01  9:47       ` no to war in Ukraine Uwe Brauer
2022-03-01 10:35         ` goncholden
2022-03-01 10:45           ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-03-01 11:00             ` goncholden
2022-03-01 12:37               ` Uwe Brauer
2022-03-01 13:09                 ` goncholden
2022-03-01 13:12                   ` Uwe Brauer
2022-03-01 13:35                     ` goncholden
2022-03-01 14:02                     ` goncholden
2022-03-01 14:34                       ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-03-01 14:52                         ` Jacob Hrbek
2022-03-01 15:29                           ` goncholden
2022-03-01 14:05                     ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-03-01 13:59               ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-03-01 10:41         ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-02-27  1:10     ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-02-27  1:27       ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-02-27  8:48       ` Alexandre Garreau
2022-02-27 11:18       ` Jacob Hrbek
2022-02-27 11:35         ` Christopher Dimech [this message]
2022-02-27 18:31         ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-02-27 18:40           ` Christopher Dimech
2022-02-28  9:23           ` Jean Louis
2022-02-28  9:22         ` Jean Louis
2022-02-28  9:19       ` Jean Louis
2022-02-28 13:22         ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-02-28 13:45           ` Samuel Banya
2022-02-28  9:16     ` Jean Louis
2022-02-28 11:46       ` Jacob Hrbek
2022-02-28 12:42         ` Christopher Dimech
2022-02-28 13:35           ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-02-28 14:44             ` Alexandre Garreau
2022-02-28 14:49               ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-02-28 13:50         ` Alexandre Garreau
2022-02-28 15:10           ` Jacob Hrbek
2022-02-28 15:39             ` Alexandre Garreau
2022-03-01  4:24           ` Richard Stallman
2022-03-01  9:22             ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-03-01  4:24           ` Richard Stallman
2022-02-27  7:49   ` Alexandre Garreau
2022-02-27  8:05     ` Po Lu
2022-02-27  8:39       ` Christopher Dimech
2022-02-27  8:58         ` Alexandre Garreau
2022-02-27  9:23           ` Christopher Dimech
2022-02-27  8:53       ` Alexandre Garreau
2022-02-27  9:51         ` Christopher Dimech
2022-02-27 11:19           ` Alexandre Garreau
2022-02-27 11:44             ` Christopher Dimech
2022-02-27 10:12         ` Po Lu
2022-02-27 10:22           ` Christopher Dimech
2022-02-27 10:25             ` Po Lu
2022-02-27 11:15               ` Christopher Dimech
2022-02-27 11:31                 ` Alexandre Garreau
2022-02-27 11:54                   ` Christopher Dimech
2022-02-27 11:48                 ` Po Lu
2022-02-27 11:53                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-27 12:00                     ` Christopher Dimech
2022-02-27 12:06                   ` Christopher Dimech
2022-02-27 12:14                   ` Alexandre Garreau
2022-02-27 10:52             ` tomas
2022-02-27 11:24               ` Christopher Dimech
2022-02-27 11:24             ` Alexandre Garreau
2022-02-27 11:48               ` Christopher Dimech
2022-02-27 11:54                 ` Po Lu
2022-02-27 12:13                 ` Alexandre Garreau
2022-02-27 11:22           ` Alexandre Garreau
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2022-02-27  3:25 emacsq
2022-02-27  8:09 ` goncholden
2022-02-27  8:51 ` Alexandre Garreau
2022-02-28 15:26   ` emacsq via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-02-28 15:30     ` emacsq via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-03-01 17:13 Humberto Freitas
2022-03-01 17:11 ` goncholden
2022-03-01 19:33 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-03-01 19:54   ` goncholden
2022-03-01 20:05     ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor

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