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From: Christopher Dimech <dimech@gmx.com>
To: kreyren@rixotstudio.cz
Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>,
	Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support>
Subject: Re: no to war in Ukraine
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2022 13:42:48 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <trinity-377ffae9-9829-4794-93f9-6c658b965a99-1646052168099@3c-app-mailcom-bs12> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <bb25e38f-6ecc-ac8d-0d35-140c07261369@rixotstudio.cz>

> Sent: Monday, February 28, 2022 at 11:46 PM
> From: "Jacob Hrbek" <kreyren@rixotstudio.cz>
> To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
> Cc: "Richard Stallman" <rms@gnu.org>, "Jean Louis" <bugs@gnu.support>
> Subject: Re: no to war in Ukraine
>
>  > This list is not for promotion of proprietary software.
>
> One thing is promotion of proprietary software the other is the
> promotion of freedom for which we dedicated our effort to do
>
> It can _NOT_ be called a Free Software and Free Hardware Designs if it's
> used to circumvent the Freedom for 43 _MILLION_ people (that's 43 000
> 000 people!) by violence, war crimes and death.
>
> What i argue for is to enforce the values on which we found Free
> Software instead of being ignorant and dedicating more resources in this
> namely the second part that majority of Free Software advocates and
> developers comfortably prefer to not exist:
>
>   * Freedom 2: The freedom to /redistribute/ and make copies _so you can
>     help your neighbour_
>
> How can you even argue that we are helping our neighbour here? We are
> enabling this violent war criminal who wages the war on freedom with the
> threat of a nuclear missiles on the European Union member countries and
> invasion of finland and swed
> en to kill us and our neighbours and worse
> in my case my slav brothers and sisters.
>
> Each minute that we hesitate on the subject is a minute of resources
> that we gift to russia to continue in this by maintaining their
> technological infrastructure.
>
>  > Condemning citizens of single country for what their political
> leaders do is wrong.
>
> I am not condemning, i even praised my brothers and sisters in russia
> who take a huge risks to oppose putin by staging mass protests across
> russian federation as "The Heroes of
> Russia"[https://qoto.org/@kreyren/107875192175864676] multiple times and
> i do whatever i can to support them.
>
> On 2/28/22 10:16, Jean Louis wrote:
> > This list is not for promotion of proprietary software.
>
> --
> Jacob Hrbek, In support of ukraine sovereignty #supportUkraine

Dear friends, it has been agreed to stop discussing the topic.  We
do not see how words and declarations can make real difference in
the matter.  All we can do is better ourself as individuals, growing
a community that is not based on borders set by governments.






  reply	other threads:[~2022-02-28 12:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 87+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-02-26 12:31 phantom invasion and ghostly resistance Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-02-26 14:36 ` Jean Louis
2022-02-27  8:57   ` Christopher Dimech
2022-02-26 23:57 ` no to war in Ukraine Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-02-27  0:02   ` Jacob Hrbek
2022-02-27  0:17     ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-02-27  0:18       ` Jacob Hrbek
2022-02-27  0:24         ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-02-27  0:59           ` Po Lu
2022-02-27  8:46         ` Alexandre Garreau
2022-02-28  9:17       ` butterfly effect Jean Louis
2022-03-01  9:47       ` no to war in Ukraine Uwe Brauer
2022-03-01 10:35         ` goncholden
2022-03-01 10:45           ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-03-01 11:00             ` goncholden
2022-03-01 12:37               ` Uwe Brauer
2022-03-01 13:09                 ` goncholden
2022-03-01 13:12                   ` Uwe Brauer
2022-03-01 13:35                     ` goncholden
2022-03-01 14:02                     ` goncholden
2022-03-01 14:34                       ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-03-01 14:52                         ` Jacob Hrbek
2022-03-01 15:29                           ` goncholden
2022-03-01 14:05                     ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-03-01 13:59               ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-03-01 10:41         ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-02-27  1:10     ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-02-27  1:27       ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-02-27  8:48       ` Alexandre Garreau
2022-02-27 11:18       ` Jacob Hrbek
2022-02-27 11:35         ` Christopher Dimech
2022-02-27 18:31         ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-02-27 18:40           ` Christopher Dimech
2022-02-28  9:23           ` Jean Louis
2022-02-28  9:22         ` Jean Louis
2022-02-28  9:19       ` Jean Louis
2022-02-28 13:22         ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-02-28 13:45           ` Samuel Banya
2022-02-28  9:16     ` Jean Louis
2022-02-28 11:46       ` Jacob Hrbek
2022-02-28 12:42         ` Christopher Dimech [this message]
2022-02-28 13:35           ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-02-28 14:44             ` Alexandre Garreau
2022-02-28 14:49               ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-02-28 13:50         ` Alexandre Garreau
2022-02-28 15:10           ` Jacob Hrbek
2022-02-28 15:39             ` Alexandre Garreau
2022-03-01  4:24           ` Richard Stallman
2022-03-01  4:24           ` Richard Stallman
2022-03-01  9:22             ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-02-27  7:49   ` Alexandre Garreau
2022-02-27  8:05     ` Po Lu
2022-02-27  8:39       ` Christopher Dimech
2022-02-27  8:58         ` Alexandre Garreau
2022-02-27  9:23           ` Christopher Dimech
2022-02-27  8:53       ` Alexandre Garreau
2022-02-27  9:51         ` Christopher Dimech
2022-02-27 11:19           ` Alexandre Garreau
2022-02-27 11:44             ` Christopher Dimech
2022-02-27 10:12         ` Po Lu
2022-02-27 10:22           ` Christopher Dimech
2022-02-27 10:25             ` Po Lu
2022-02-27 11:15               ` Christopher Dimech
2022-02-27 11:31                 ` Alexandre Garreau
2022-02-27 11:54                   ` Christopher Dimech
2022-02-27 11:48                 ` Po Lu
2022-02-27 11:53                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-27 12:00                     ` Christopher Dimech
2022-02-27 12:06                   ` Christopher Dimech
2022-02-27 12:14                   ` Alexandre Garreau
2022-02-27 10:52             ` tomas
2022-02-27 11:24               ` Christopher Dimech
2022-02-27 11:24             ` Alexandre Garreau
2022-02-27 11:48               ` Christopher Dimech
2022-02-27 11:54                 ` Po Lu
2022-02-27 12:13                 ` Alexandre Garreau
2022-02-27 11:22           ` Alexandre Garreau
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2022-02-27  3:25 emacsq
2022-02-27  8:09 ` goncholden
2022-02-27  8:51 ` Alexandre Garreau
2022-02-28 15:26   ` emacsq via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-02-28 15:30     ` emacsq via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-03-01 17:13 Humberto Freitas
2022-03-01 17:11 ` goncholden
2022-03-01 19:33 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-03-01 19:54   ` goncholden
2022-03-01 20:05     ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor

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