From: Emanuel Berg <incal@dataswamp.org>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [External] : Re: Testing whether a list contains at least one non-nil element
Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2022 13:48:34 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ilk15vfh.fsf@dataswamp.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: jwvy1t0m7c2.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org
Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor wrote:
>> You don't want to implement such functions in Emacs with
>> recursion because you'll easily hit `max-lisp-eval-depth'
>> when they are called.
>
> Indeed (and it's significantly slower than the corresponding
> loop without function calls).
Recursion is slower because of the continual function calls
and those will also blow the stack eventually ...
>> Sorry to tell you, but a loop is the preferable way
>> in Elisp.
>
> Luckily, since Emacs-28 you can have your cake and eat it too:
>
> (defun has-non-nil (lst)
> (named-let loop ((lst lst))
> (cond
> ((null lst) nil)
> ((consp lst) (or (not (null (car lst))) (loop (cdr lst))))
> (t (error "Not a proper list! You cheater!")))))
`named-let' is from a "[l]ooping construct taken from Scheme."
I love it that Elisp is like a "Lisp dump" area where
everything from the Lisp world worth having seems to end up
eventually ...
> Admittedly, here the `named-let` construct gives you only
> the elimination of tail-recursion, but in many other
> circumstances it also leads to quite elegant code.
Here tail refers to not the `cdr' of the list but the tail of
the function, "a tail call is a subroutine call performed as
the final action of a procedure. If the target of a tail is
the same subroutine, the subroutine is said to be tail
recursive, which is a special case of direct recursion" [1]
I don't know why that is such an important distinction, I also
remember recursion over trees that recursed both ways from the
top and middle nodes if it/they had several child nodes, so
I guess that recursion was both tail and direct LOL.
Elisp direct recursion example anyone?
And what was this continuation-passing style?
CPS 1975 continuation-passing style, coined in "AI Memo 349"
I used it once, but don't remember what file that was ...
> (defalias 'has-non-nil
> #'(lambda (lst) [...]
TIL: In Scheme-inspired Elisp, quoting lambdas is OK ...
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tail_call
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-10-30 12:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-10-25 10:16 Testing whether a list contains at least one non-nil element Heime
2022-10-25 10:46 ` Jean Louis
2022-10-25 10:47 ` Jean Louis
2022-10-25 10:50 ` Jean Louis
2022-10-25 12:12 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-10-26 18:56 ` Jean Louis
2022-10-27 3:54 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-10-27 4:53 ` Jean Louis
2022-10-27 5:30 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-10-27 15:54 ` Drew Adams
2022-10-27 17:47 ` Elisp and CL (was: Re: [External] : Re: Testing whether a list contains at least one non-nil element) Emanuel Berg
2022-10-27 20:38 ` [External] : Re: Testing whether a list contains at least one non-nil element Jean Louis
2022-10-28 0:22 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-10-28 4:48 ` tomas
2022-10-28 5:19 ` Jean Louis
2022-10-28 6:20 ` Michael Heerdegen
2022-10-28 13:09 ` Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-10-29 6:10 ` Michael Heerdegen
2022-10-29 15:25 ` Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-10-30 12:49 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-10-29 6:38 ` tomas
2022-10-30 12:48 ` Emanuel Berg [this message]
2022-10-29 9:20 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-10-29 9:19 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-10-27 4:01 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-10-25 12:05 ` Michael Heerdegen
2022-10-25 12:15 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-10-25 15:59 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-10-25 17:44 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-10-26 15:39 ` Drew Adams
2022-10-26 17:43 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-10-25 17:25 ` Joost Kremers
2022-10-25 17:51 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-10-25 19:44 ` Heime
2022-10-25 20:08 ` Joost Kremers
2022-10-25 20:15 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-10-25 20:19 ` Joost Kremers
2022-10-26 3:00 ` Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
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2022-10-28 5:07 Drew Adams
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