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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support>
Cc: mullikine@gmail.com, emacs-tangents@gnu.org, stefan@marxist.se,
	rms@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Help building Pen.el (GPT for emacs)
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2021 11:59:11 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83sg04ytnk.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YPvQ3UG3pdgjbiic@protected.localdomain> (message from Jean Louis on Sat, 24 Jul 2021 11:35:41 +0300)

> Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2021 11:35:41 +0300
> From: Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support>
> Cc: rms@gnu.org, stefan@marxist.se, mullikine@gmail.com,
>   emacs-tangents@gnu.org
> 
> There are no doubts that code may be copied verbatin, as here is
> authorized and official documentation by Github related to Copilot:
> https://docs.github.com/en/github/copilot/research-recitation

So we won't use that Github stuff.  Which we won't anyway, because we
avoid Github in general.

How does this help us decide about general usability of this
technology?  It doesn't.

> At this moment there is no verified legal statement by let us say FSF
> attorneys or legal experts or some other organization that will
> confirm legal status of such generated code or text on international
> level. 

I suggest to leave the legal stuff to the legal experts.  We should
assess the data and provide them with facts, not make the decisions
for them.  Which means this discussion, and your suggestions that we
should already stay away of this technology, are premature at best, if
not in the wrong place at the wrong time.

So please don't discourage independent assessment of this technology
by posting half-baked "legal" opinions from people with questionable
motivation (present company excluded, of course) representing that
this technology is legally incompatible with Free Software.  IMO, we
don't yet know enough for any such definitive opinions and
conclusions.



  reply	other threads:[~2021-07-24  8:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2021-07-19 17:00                   ` Help building Pen.el (GPT for emacs) Jean Louis
2021-07-23  6:51                     ` Shane Mulligan
2021-07-23 10:12                       ` Jean Louis
2021-07-23 10:54                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-23 11:32                           ` Jean Louis
2021-07-23 11:51                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-23 12:47                               ` Jean Louis
2021-07-23 13:39                                 ` Shane Mulligan
2021-07-23 14:39                                   ` Jean Louis
2021-07-26  0:16                                   ` Richard Stallman
2021-07-26  0:28                                     ` Shane Mulligan
2021-07-30  3:20                                       ` Shane Mulligan
2021-07-30  6:55                                         ` Jean Louis
2021-07-23 19:33                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-24  3:07                                   ` Jean Louis
2021-07-24  7:32                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-24  7:54                                       ` Jean Louis
2021-07-24  8:50                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-24 16:16                                           ` Jean Louis
2021-07-24 16:44                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-24 18:01                                               ` Jean Louis
2021-07-25  1:09                                     ` Richard Stallman
2021-07-24  1:14                             ` Richard Stallman
2021-07-24  2:10                               ` Shane Mulligan
2021-07-24  2:34                                 ` Shane Mulligan
2021-07-24  3:14                                   ` Shane Mulligan
2021-07-24  6:49                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-24  7:33                                 ` Jean Louis
2021-07-24  8:10                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-24  8:21                                     ` Jean Louis
2021-07-24  8:35                                     ` Jean Louis
2021-07-24  8:59                                       ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2021-07-24 16:18                                         ` Jean Louis
2021-07-24 16:45                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-24 17:57                                             ` Jean Louis
2021-07-24 18:15                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-24  7:41                                 ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-07-24  7:59                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-24  9:31                                     ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-07-24 11:19                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-24 14:16                                         ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-07-24 14:37                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-24 14:49                                             ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-07-24 15:13                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-25  1:06                       ` Richard Stallman
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     [not found]   ` <CACT87JpAcUfuRB01CcnfbL4yCTPyDoiG_WOzzxVvAW7rhj0=Mw@mail.gmail.com>
2021-07-23 15:37     ` Jean Louis

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