From: Joshua Branson <jbranso@fastmail.com>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: RFC: Adding BBDB to Emacs core
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2018 08:24:12 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ygfvacuugb7.fsf@fastmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m3zi265o49.fsf@fitzsim.org> (Thomas Fitzsimmons's message of "Sat, 14 Apr 2018 01:54:46 -0400")
That sounds pretty awesome, but does the bbdb package have any info
documentation? Not that it really matters, but it would be nice to have.
Also, may I ask about ebdb? Does ebdb ever have
a chance at making emacs core?
P.S. I'm not a developer (at least not yet). Just curious.
Thomas Fitzsimmons <fitzsim@fitzsim.org> writes:
> Hi,
>
> Now that BBDB is copyright clear and available in GNU ELPA, thanks to
> Roland Winkler, I'd like to see what people think about also adding it
> to Emacs core.
>
> While maintaining EUDC in Emacs core, I've encountered many references
> to BBDB that are unresolved. The only reason for this, as far as I can
> tell, is that historically BBDB's copyright status didn't allow it to be
> included in core. Otherwise it probably would have been included all
> along. Now it's possible to fix this properly.
>
> I've started an integration attempt on the scratch/eudc-bbdb-3 branch.
> I merged a recent version of BBDB from GNU ELPA into lisp/bbdb, then I
> resolved references to BBDB in EUDC. For example, we can remove things
> like:
>
> (declare-function bbdb-record-phones "ext:bbdb" t) ; via bbdb-defstruct
>
> and apply changes like:
>
> --- a/lisp/net/eudc-export.el
> +++ b/lisp/net/eudc-export.el
> @@ -31,10 +31,8 @@
> ;;; Code:
>
> (require 'eudc)
> -
> -;; NOERROR is so we can compile it.
> -(require 'bbdb nil t)
> -(require 'bbdb-com nil t)
> +(require 'bbdb)
> +(require 'bbdb-com)
>
> (defun eudc-create-bbdb-record (record &optional silent)
> "Create a BBDB record using the RECORD alist.
>
> This makes the code cleaner and easier to maintain. We can also rely
> only on the version of BBDB in GNU Emacs (or a later one in GNU ELPA)
> and so all the BBDB < 3 compatibility code can be deleted without risk
> of breaking people's package sets (BBDB >= 3 auto-converts BBDB < 3
> databases to the updated format).
>
> I think applying this same type of effort to the other BBDB-dependent
> core packages would simplify them too.
>
> I'd like BBDB to become the default out-of-the-box local contact
> management library for GNU Emacs, in particular so that Gnus/EUDC/BBDB
> work together to provide email completion and snarfing out-of-the-box,
> without extra configuration or package installation.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Thomas
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-04-14 12:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-04-14 5:54 RFC: Adding BBDB to Emacs core Thomas Fitzsimmons
2018-04-14 12:24 ` Joshua Branson [this message]
2018-04-14 22:06 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2018-04-14 22:46 ` Joshua Branson
2018-04-15 6:18 ` Bozhidar Batsov
2018-04-16 5:21 ` John Wiegley
2018-04-16 14:53 ` Thomas Fitzsimmons
2018-04-16 18:36 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-04-16 20:30 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2018-04-17 3:37 ` Thomas Fitzsimmons
2018-04-23 12:53 ` Phillip Lord
2018-04-23 13:21 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-04-23 16:21 ` Phillip Lord
2018-04-23 17:45 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-04-24 21:41 ` Phillip Lord
2018-04-24 22:31 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-04-25 0:42 ` Paul Eggert
2018-04-25 1:50 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-04-25 9:21 ` Phillip Lord
2018-04-25 12:02 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-04-25 16:31 ` Phillip Lord
2018-04-25 16:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-04-26 14:59 ` Phillip Lord
2018-04-25 9:19 ` Phillip Lord
2018-04-25 16:04 ` Radon Rosborough
2018-04-25 16:32 ` Phillip Lord
2018-04-25 16:55 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-04-25 20:16 ` Radon Rosborough
2018-04-26 15:02 ` Phillip Lord
2018-04-26 16:38 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-04-27 9:57 ` Phillip Lord
2018-04-27 13:32 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-04-17 3:23 ` Roland Winkler
2018-04-17 4:56 ` John Wiegley
2018-04-17 13:07 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-04-17 15:13 ` Roland Winkler
2018-04-18 23:11 ` Stephen Leake
2018-04-23 12:57 ` Phillip Lord
2018-04-23 13:26 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-04-23 15:29 ` Roland Winkler
2018-04-14 22:13 ` Thomas Fitzsimmons
2018-04-14 13:34 ` Glenn Morris
2018-04-14 17:10 ` Radon Rosborough
2018-04-14 17:38 ` Thomas Fitzsimmons
2018-04-15 21:20 ` Phillip Lord
2018-04-16 3:11 ` Michael Welsh Duggan
2018-04-16 12:30 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-04-16 17:09 ` Achim Gratz
2018-04-16 18:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-04-16 18:14 ` Achim Gratz
2018-04-23 12:45 ` Phillip Lord
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