From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord)
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: RFC: Adding BBDB to Emacs core
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2018 10:19:50 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87muxr8wy1.fsf@russet.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvy3hcfdie.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (Stefan Monnier's message of "Tue, 24 Apr 2018 18:31:39 -0400")
Stefan Monnier <monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA> writes:
>> As a package author, I have two choices here: either I move to Emacs-27
>> and ditch Emacs-26 support. Or I have to put runtime conditional logic
>> which supports both.
>
> That's right.
>
>> I think package authors should have the choice of freezing the
>> Emacs-26 version of their package when Emacs-27 comes out.
>
> There's a case to be made for allowing ELPA archives to exports several
> versions of a package at the same time, so older Emacsen can still
> install the old version of a package without having to download the old
> version by hand.
Yep. In practice, for my packages this would currently happen at either
24.1 (this is the oldest Emacs I can still compile, and even that
requires a bit of hacking) or 24.4 (the advice change). Being able to
leave a version at this point would be a good thing.
> But I'm not moved by your scenario: adding runtime conditional logic has
> been standard procedure "for ever" and comes with all kinds of
> advantages, such as the ability for older Emacsen to benefit from other
> improvements in the newer versions of your package, or an easier way to
> install&use the package with several different versions of Emacs at the
> same time, ...
Imagine I have left a package for an old version of Emacs. Now I find a
major security bug in the latest version, that I need to back-port to
the old version.
>> This situation would get worse if we have an "unstable" version of
>> ELPA.
>
> I don't see why: "unstable" is just a preview of what will be "stable"
> a few weeks/months later and packages usually preserve compatibility at
> least with Emacsen that are a few years old.
>
>> I bet that there is some package already that depends on Emacs-27
>> at the bleeding edge.
>
> I strongly doubt it.
I haven't tested it yet; to my knowledge there is no routine testing of
ELPA against multiple Emacs versions.
Phil
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-04-25 9:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-04-14 5:54 RFC: Adding BBDB to Emacs core Thomas Fitzsimmons
2018-04-14 12:24 ` Joshua Branson
2018-04-14 22:06 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2018-04-14 22:46 ` Joshua Branson
2018-04-15 6:18 ` Bozhidar Batsov
2018-04-16 5:21 ` John Wiegley
2018-04-16 14:53 ` Thomas Fitzsimmons
2018-04-16 18:36 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-04-16 20:30 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2018-04-17 3:37 ` Thomas Fitzsimmons
2018-04-23 12:53 ` Phillip Lord
2018-04-23 13:21 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-04-23 16:21 ` Phillip Lord
2018-04-23 17:45 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-04-24 21:41 ` Phillip Lord
2018-04-24 22:31 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-04-25 0:42 ` Paul Eggert
2018-04-25 1:50 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-04-25 9:21 ` Phillip Lord
2018-04-25 12:02 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-04-25 16:31 ` Phillip Lord
2018-04-25 16:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-04-26 14:59 ` Phillip Lord
2018-04-25 9:19 ` Phillip Lord [this message]
2018-04-25 16:04 ` Radon Rosborough
2018-04-25 16:32 ` Phillip Lord
2018-04-25 16:55 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-04-25 20:16 ` Radon Rosborough
2018-04-26 15:02 ` Phillip Lord
2018-04-26 16:38 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-04-27 9:57 ` Phillip Lord
2018-04-27 13:32 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-04-17 3:23 ` Roland Winkler
2018-04-17 4:56 ` John Wiegley
2018-04-17 13:07 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-04-17 15:13 ` Roland Winkler
2018-04-18 23:11 ` Stephen Leake
2018-04-23 12:57 ` Phillip Lord
2018-04-23 13:26 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-04-23 15:29 ` Roland Winkler
2018-04-14 22:13 ` Thomas Fitzsimmons
2018-04-14 13:34 ` Glenn Morris
2018-04-14 17:10 ` Radon Rosborough
2018-04-14 17:38 ` Thomas Fitzsimmons
2018-04-15 21:20 ` Phillip Lord
2018-04-16 3:11 ` Michael Welsh Duggan
2018-04-16 12:30 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-04-16 17:09 ` Achim Gratz
2018-04-16 18:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-04-16 18:14 ` Achim Gratz
2018-04-23 12:45 ` Phillip Lord
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