From: Yann Hodique <yann.hodique@gmail.com>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Adding advisory notification for non-ELPA package.el downloads
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2017 09:48:17 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <y9glfue42q7i.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: E1dUV0I-00078i-6B@fencepost.gnu.org
>>>>> "Richard" == Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> writes:
> [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]]
> [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]]
> [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]]
>> Proactively contacting elisp developers to ask them if they would
>> consider a copyright assignment (mentioning the benefit of potential
>> bundling with Emacs, along with the rest of the implications) seems much
>> more OK to me.
> That would entail searching for people who are just starting packages
> and sending each one mail. I agree it would give better results -- if
> we could do it. But it would be a lot of work. Who would do the
> work? And how would we find people that are just starting
> to get contributions to their packages?
> It isn't better if it isn't feasible.
Well, one possibility would be to:
1. figure out where most of the code that ends up in MELPA lives (since
it seems to be the target so far):
~/src/github.com/melpa/melpa/recipes master
❯ grep :fetcher * | sed 's/.*:fetcher \([a-z]*\).*/\1/' | sort | uniq -c | sort -rg
3393 github
156 wiki
44 git
38 bitbucket
26 gitlab
9 svn
4 cvs
2 darcs
2 bzr
1 hg
given that the wiki data is reachable from github (via
https://github.com/emacsmirror/emacswiki.org) that means that at
least 96.6% of the target is present on github one way or the
other. I'm too lazy to extract real trends, but this share is
slowly growing
| 07/2012 | 07/2013 | 07/2014 | 07/2015 | 07/2016 | 07/2017 |
|---------+---------+---------+---------+---------+---------|
| 89.8 | 92.4 | 94 | 95.8 | 96.5 | 96.6 |
2. use the fact that github data is published weekly as a BigQuery
dataset (https://cloud.google.com/bigquery/public-data/github) to
perform fancy queries on it: like what are the emacs repositories
that went from 1 contributor last week to 2 contributors this week,
crosscheck with paperwork data and identify who to go after next.
An example of what has already been achieved using those tools:
https://kozikow.com/2016/06/29/top-emacs-packages-used-in-github-repos/
That's kind of handwavy and vaguely creepy (then again, any kind of
automatic detection of what I might be doing to "help me being a better
member of the community" is gonna creep me out no matter what), but most
of the data is definitely readily available.
Yann.
--
The worst sort of protection is confidence. The best defense is suspicion.
-- HASIMIR FENRING
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-07-10 16:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-07-08 1:59 Adding advisory notification for non-ELPA package.el downloads John Wiegley
2017-07-08 10:29 ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-07-08 12:57 ` Kaushal Modi
2017-07-08 17:03 ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-08 22:12 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2017-07-08 22:50 ` Tim Cross
2017-07-10 9:29 ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-13 15:07 ` Jean Louis
2017-07-10 9:29 ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-09 0:39 ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-07-10 2:07 ` Chad Brown
2017-07-10 9:27 ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-10 13:02 ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-07-11 11:45 ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-11 15:00 ` Yuri Khan
2017-07-11 18:01 ` John Wiegley
2017-07-11 18:37 ` Yuri Khan
2017-07-11 22:57 ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-12 7:56 ` Yuri Khan
2017-07-12 16:12 ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-12 17:49 ` emacs.org website [was Re: Adding advisory notification for non-ELPA package.el downloads] Glenn Morris
2017-07-13 12:23 ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-15 5:55 ` John Wiegley
2017-07-12 16:35 ` Glenn Morris
2017-07-11 22:57 ` Adding advisory notification for non-ELPA package.el downloads Richard Stallman
2017-07-12 23:12 ` Nicolas Petton
2017-07-13 12:26 ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-13 19:12 ` Nicolas Petton
2017-07-15 1:33 ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-17 8:16 ` Nicolas Petton
2017-07-24 2:54 ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-10 15:36 ` Ken Manheimer
2017-07-10 23:32 ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-08 14:57 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2017-07-09 3:04 ` Yann Hodique
2017-07-10 9:29 ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-10 15:41 ` Ken Manheimer
2017-07-10 23:30 ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-10 16:48 ` Yann Hodique [this message]
2017-07-10 20:43 ` Joost Kremers
2017-07-11 22:57 ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-12 0:40 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-07-12 16:13 ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-11 16:04 ` Improving GNU ELPA (was: Adding advisory notification for non-ELPA package.el downloads) Stefan Monnier
2017-07-12 1:26 ` Improving GNU ELPA Clément Pit-Claudel
2017-07-12 2:19 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-07-12 23:17 ` Nicolas Petton
2017-07-13 2:03 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-07-13 2:07 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-07-13 19:18 ` Etienne Prud’homme
2017-07-13 22:07 ` Phillip Lord
2017-07-16 16:04 ` Improving GNU ELPA (was: Adding advisory notification for non-ELPA package.el downloads) Jonas Bernoulli
2017-07-16 17:11 ` Improving GNU ELPA Stefan Monnier
2017-07-16 17:28 ` Jonas Bernoulli
2017-07-17 16:46 ` Phillip Lord
2017-07-17 18:26 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-07-17 21:04 ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-17 21:21 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-07-18 10:08 ` Phillip Lord
2017-07-18 13:35 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-07-18 16:17 ` Phillip Lord
2017-07-18 14:18 ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-18 16:23 ` Phillip Lord
2017-07-19 3:31 ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-19 22:54 ` Phillip Lord
2017-07-18 14:16 ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-18 14:39 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-07-18 16:20 ` Phillip Lord
2017-07-18 17:26 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-07-19 22:59 ` Phillip Lord
2017-07-24 2:54 ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-24 12:26 ` Phillip Lord
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2017-07-20 12:29 Adding advisory notification for non-ELPA package.el downloads Paul Rankin
2017-07-20 12:37 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2017-07-20 13:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-20 13:49 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2017-07-20 14:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-20 14:48 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2017-07-20 14:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-24 2:52 ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-20 14:01 ` Paul Rankin
2017-07-20 14:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-20 14:36 ` Paul Rankin
2017-07-20 14:47 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2017-07-20 15:09 ` Paul Rankin
2017-07-20 15:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-20 15:58 ` Paul Rankin
2017-07-20 17:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-21 11:21 ` Nikolaus Rath
2017-07-20 14:27 ` John Wiegley
2017-07-20 15:19 ` Stephen Berman
2017-07-20 16:19 ` Radon Rosborough
2017-07-24 2:52 ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-24 3:05 ` Radon Rosborough
2017-07-25 1:32 ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-20 21:20 ` Richard Stallman
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