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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Adding advisory notification for non-ELPA package.el downloads
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2017 20:40:43 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvlgnumvam.fsf-monnier+gmane.emacs.devel@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: E1dV46D-0002oN-EO@fencepost.gnu.org

> ELPA managers, does the act of installing directly into ELPA give us
> an opportunity to make sure something is being handled right?

I think the difference is pretty significant, yes.
If we pull from other repositories:
- maintainers of the package will not be reminded that the package is
  also in GNU ELPA (and should hence adhere to a copyright assignment
  policy).

- While the repository may be under the sole control of the package
  maintainer when the package is added to GNU ELPA, that can and will
  evolve over time, completely outside of our control.

- There is no easy way for us (Emacs maintainers) to install fixes to
  adapt to changes in Emacs.  More specifically, it needs to be done by
  hand package-by-package, by submitting a patch and hoping the upstream
  maintainer is still listening.

- Handling old unmaintained packages is more trouble.

- We won't get elpa-diffs email, where we have the opportunity to give
  advice on coding style and have a minimum amount of review of the code
  we end up distributing.

Basically it would turn GNU ELPA into a pure distribution site, with
very little control over what we distribute, including the copyright
status of what we distribute.

The only real difference with MELPA would be that we could check that
each file comes with the proper GPLv3+ blurb.  Not sure if it would be
worth the trouble.


        Stefan




  reply	other threads:[~2017-07-12  0:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-07-08  1:59 Adding advisory notification for non-ELPA package.el downloads John Wiegley
2017-07-08 10:29 ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-07-08 12:57   ` Kaushal Modi
2017-07-08 17:03   ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-08 22:12     ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2017-07-08 22:50       ` Tim Cross
2017-07-10  9:29         ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-13 15:07         ` Jean Louis
2017-07-10  9:29       ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-09  0:39     ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-07-10  2:07       ` Chad Brown
2017-07-10  9:27       ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-10 13:02         ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-07-11 11:45           ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-11 15:00             ` Yuri Khan
2017-07-11 18:01               ` John Wiegley
2017-07-11 18:37                 ` Yuri Khan
2017-07-11 22:57               ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-12  7:56                 ` Yuri Khan
2017-07-12 16:12                   ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-12 17:49                     ` emacs.org website [was Re: Adding advisory notification for non-ELPA package.el downloads] Glenn Morris
2017-07-13 12:23                       ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-15  5:55                         ` John Wiegley
2017-07-12 16:35                   ` Glenn Morris
2017-07-11 22:57               ` Adding advisory notification for non-ELPA package.el downloads Richard Stallman
2017-07-12 23:12                 ` Nicolas Petton
2017-07-13 12:26                   ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-13 19:12                     ` Nicolas Petton
2017-07-15  1:33                       ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-17  8:16                         ` Nicolas Petton
2017-07-24  2:54                           ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-10 15:36         ` Ken Manheimer
2017-07-10 23:32           ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-08 14:57 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2017-07-09  3:04   ` Yann Hodique
2017-07-10  9:29     ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-10 15:41       ` Ken Manheimer
2017-07-10 23:30         ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-10 16:48       ` Yann Hodique
2017-07-10 20:43   ` Joost Kremers
2017-07-11 22:57     ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-12  0:40       ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2017-07-12 16:13         ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-11 16:04   ` Improving GNU ELPA (was: Adding advisory notification for non-ELPA package.el downloads) Stefan Monnier
2017-07-12  1:26     ` Improving GNU ELPA Clément Pit-Claudel
2017-07-12  2:19       ` Stefan Monnier
2017-07-12 23:17         ` Nicolas Petton
2017-07-13  2:03           ` Stefan Monnier
2017-07-13  2:07             ` Stefan Monnier
2017-07-13 19:18         ` Etienne Prud’homme
2017-07-13 22:07           ` Phillip Lord
2017-07-16 16:04     ` Improving GNU ELPA (was: Adding advisory notification for non-ELPA package.el downloads) Jonas Bernoulli
2017-07-16 17:11       ` Improving GNU ELPA Stefan Monnier
2017-07-16 17:28         ` Jonas Bernoulli
2017-07-17 16:46           ` Phillip Lord
2017-07-17 18:26           ` Stefan Monnier
2017-07-17 21:04             ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-17 21:21               ` Stefan Monnier
2017-07-18 10:08                 ` Phillip Lord
2017-07-18 13:35                   ` Stefan Monnier
2017-07-18 16:17                     ` Phillip Lord
2017-07-18 14:18                   ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-18 16:23                     ` Phillip Lord
2017-07-19  3:31                       ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-19 22:54                         ` Phillip Lord
2017-07-18 14:16                 ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-18 14:39                   ` Stefan Monnier
2017-07-18 16:20                     ` Phillip Lord
2017-07-18 17:26                       ` Stefan Monnier
2017-07-19 22:59                         ` Phillip Lord
2017-07-24  2:54                           ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-24 12:26                             ` Phillip Lord
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2017-07-20 12:29 Adding advisory notification for non-ELPA package.el downloads Paul Rankin
2017-07-20 12:37 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2017-07-20 13:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-20 13:49   ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2017-07-20 14:17     ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-20 14:48       ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2017-07-20 14:57         ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-24  2:52       ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-20 14:01   ` Paul Rankin
2017-07-20 14:20     ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-20 14:36       ` Paul Rankin
2017-07-20 14:47         ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2017-07-20 15:09           ` Paul Rankin
2017-07-20 15:08         ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-20 15:58           ` Paul Rankin
2017-07-20 17:56             ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-21 11:21               ` Nikolaus Rath
2017-07-20 14:27     ` John Wiegley
2017-07-20 15:19 ` Stephen Berman
2017-07-20 16:19 ` Radon Rosborough
2017-07-24  2:52   ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-24  3:05     ` Radon Rosborough
2017-07-25  1:32       ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-20 21:20 ` Richard Stallman

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