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From: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
Cc: "Jari Aalto+mail.emacs" <jari.aalto@cante.net>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Key binding M-g should really be goto-line
Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 10:58:39 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <x5ekepdttc.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87y8cx4b3e.fsf@jurta.org> (Juri Linkov's message of "Wed, 09 Mar 2005 09:05:33 +0200")

Juri Linkov <juri@jurta.org> writes:

> I see `goto-line' finally bound to M-g in CVS.  Good news!  After
> such a big change, it is time now for a few improvements.

Can you spell "Can-Of-Worms"?  Can you spell "feature freeze"?

> 1. Before this change, font-lock-fontify-block was bound to `M-g
> M-g'.  Now it is bound to `M-o M-g'.  I suspect that the reason to
> bind it to `M-g M-g' was to make it easier to run this frequent
> command by typing the same key twice.  If this is true then now
> perhaps it should be rebound to `M-o M-o'.

So far, I can agree.

> 2. goto-line is not too frequent command to deserve the sole
> M-g key.  There are many other goto-related commands that could
> share the same mnemonics and have the common M-g prefix key.

Forget it.  No precedence, no previous desire, not fitting the feature
freeze.  Is this a plot to distract people from releasing?

> Other commands that deserve a key binding with a `M-g' prefix are:
>
> 2.1. next-error (alias goto-next-locus), previous-error
>
> The current key binding C-x ` is too hard to type on
> many keyboards, and it is the constant cause of complaints.

C-x ` completely sucks as a keybinding on many international
keyboards.  We need a new keybinding alternative at some point of
time.  But M-g is clean out, in my opinion.  Really.

My proposal for an C-x ` alternative would be C-x ? which appears to
be free at the moment.  ? is a frequent character in all languages I
know, and so it should be more accessible than ` on most keyboards.
It also is connotated with "error" somewhat.

-- 
David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum

  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-03-09  9:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-03-09  7:05 Key binding M-g should really be goto-line Juri Linkov
2005-03-09  7:53 ` Miles Bader
2005-03-09  8:32 ` Kim F. Storm
2005-03-10  6:28   ` Juri Linkov
2005-03-09  9:58 ` David Kastrup [this message]
2005-03-09 10:47   ` Miles Bader
2005-03-09 13:17     ` David Kastrup
2005-03-09 11:27   ` Kim F. Storm
2005-03-10  9:18     ` Piet van Oostrum
2005-03-10 10:16       ` Miles Bader
2005-03-10 10:47       ` Kim F. Storm
2005-03-10 12:21         ` M-g binding in Gnus (was: Key binding M-g should really be goto-line) Reiner Steib
2005-03-10 12:59           ` M-g binding in Gnus Kim F. Storm
2005-03-10 13:34             ` Reiner Steib
2005-03-10 15:18               ` Kim F. Storm
2005-03-10  2:03   ` Key binding M-g should really be goto-line Richard Stallman
2005-03-10  7:28   ` Key binding M-g should really be goto-line (To M-g M-g or not to M-g) Jari Aalto
2005-03-10 10:49     ` David Kastrup
2005-03-11  7:07     ` Jari Aalto
2005-03-09 21:51 ` Key binding M-g should really be goto-line Romain Francoise
2005-03-09 22:34   ` David Kastrup
2005-03-10  0:33     ` Miles Bader
2005-03-10  0:54       ` David Kastrup
2005-03-10  1:28       ` Johan Bockgård
2005-03-10  6:29         ` Juri Linkov
2005-03-10  7:24           ` Romain Francoise
2005-03-10 10:48             ` David Kastrup
2005-03-10 11:41               ` Romain Francoise
2005-03-10 13:23                 ` Andreas Schwab
2005-03-10 15:19                   ` Kim F. Storm
2005-03-18 10:27 ` Romain Francoise
2005-03-18 12:11   ` M-g suffixes. Was: " David Kastrup
2005-03-18 12:59     ` Romain Francoise
2005-03-18 13:17       ` David Kastrup
2005-03-18 13:58     ` Stefan Monnier
2005-03-18 18:59       ` Gaetan Leurent
2005-03-19  3:09   ` Richard Stallman
2005-03-19  9:20     ` David Kastrup
2005-03-20 14:41     ` Romain Francoise
2005-03-21  1:18       ` Richard Stallman
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-03-05  0:24 Key binding M-g should really be goto-line autolearn=noversion=3.0.2 autolearn=no version=3.0.2 Miles Bader
2005-03-05  0:49 ` Key binding M-g should really be goto-lineautolearn=noversion=3.0.2 " Drew Adams
2005-03-05  1:27   ` Miles Bader
2005-03-05 19:00     ` Stefan Monnier
2005-03-05 20:22       ` Key binding M-g should really be goto-line Johan Bockgård
2005-03-05 23:16         ` Miles Bader
2005-03-06  9:50           ` David Kastrup
2005-03-01 22:58 Jari Aalto+mail.emacs
2005-03-01 23:35 ` David Kastrup
2005-03-02  4:50   ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-03-02  5:39     ` Nick Roberts
2005-03-02  6:24     ` Miles Bader
2005-03-02  8:31     ` Key binding M-g should really be goto-line autolearn=no version=3.0.2 Jari Aalto+mail.emacs
2005-03-02 12:17       ` Key binding M-g should really be goto-line autolearn=no version=3.0.2 " Jari Aalto+mail.linux
2005-03-02 13:42         ` Key binding M-g should really be goto-line Kim F. Storm
2005-03-01 23:49 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2005-03-02  1:00   ` Ralf Angeli
2005-03-02  1:14     ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2005-03-02  8:08       ` Ralf Angeli
2005-03-02  1:19     ` David Kastrup
2005-03-02 13:40   ` Robert J. Chassell
2005-03-02  2:06 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-03-03  2:29   ` Richard Stallman
2005-03-02  9:24 ` Kai Großjohann
2005-03-02 11:15 ` Jari Aalto+mail.emacs
2005-03-02 13:52   ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2005-03-02 14:50     ` Josh Varner
2005-03-02 16:38       ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2005-03-02 17:16         ` Reiner Steib
2005-03-02 17:52           ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2005-03-02 19:01           ` Johan Bockgård
2005-03-02 20:23             ` Gaetan Leurent
2005-03-02 20:46               ` Miles Bader
2005-03-02 20:33             ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2005-03-02 15:38   ` Jari Aalto
2005-03-03  2:29 ` Richard Stallman
2005-03-03  7:19 ` Jari Aalto

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