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From: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Key binding M-g should really be goto-line
Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2005 00:35:09 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <x5psyjj5xu.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <psyj0y9z.fsf@blue.sea.net> (Jari Aalto's message of "Wed, 02 Mar 2005 00:58:00 +0200")

jari.aalto@cante.net (Jari Aalto+mail.emacs) writes:

>     http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2004-03/msg00642.html
>     From: Richard Stallman
>
>     "I want Emacs to move in the direction of doing word processing.  It
>     may take years, but we will get there.  Then commands to specify faces
>     will become important, and will need a good key binding.
>
>     I chose the M-g binding for that reason, and the reason continues to
>     have force.  So I don't intend to change that binding."
>
> Please, I have been watching this future over 10 years now and in the mean
> time hundreds or thousands developers / code writers / designers / students
> / teachers are all using
>
>     M-g to mean goto-line

I'd second that.  And the reason is that it is my opinion that even in
the text processing case M-g has little to none mnemonic value, and
more in the context of text processing functions is needed, anyway,
than just font selection.  If we go that lane, it will more probably
require opening a modifier like "super" or "alt" for it.  Most
keyboards by now readily have enough modifiers available.  We will
need a terminal shortcut for terminals that don't have it, like for
Meta.  Esc-Esc would be one possibility.  It is easier to type than
M-g, and it has more "this is a new class of commands" connotations.
The two bindings already starting with Esc Esc would not suffer much
(The Esc M-: binding is available as M-:, anyway).

I think that would be a good escape route for text processing
commands.  I certainly would like to see M-g for goto-line.

-- 
David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum

  reply	other threads:[~2005-03-01 23:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 91+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-03-01 22:58 Key binding M-g should really be goto-line Jari Aalto+mail.emacs
2005-03-01 23:35 ` David Kastrup [this message]
2005-03-02  4:50   ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-03-02  5:39     ` Nick Roberts
2005-03-02  6:24     ` Miles Bader
2005-03-02  8:31     ` Key binding M-g should really be goto-line autolearn=no version=3.0.2 Jari Aalto+mail.emacs
2005-03-02 11:30       ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2005-03-02 12:15         ` Miles Bader
2005-03-02 13:54           ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2005-03-02 20:54             ` Miles Bader
2005-03-02 12:43         ` Andreas Schwab
2005-03-02 14:00         ` Stefan Monnier
2005-03-02 14:13           ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2005-03-02 12:17       ` Key binding M-g should really be goto-line autolearn=no version=3.0.2 " Jari Aalto+mail.linux
2005-03-02 13:42         ` Key binding M-g should really be goto-line Kim F. Storm
2005-03-02 13:53         ` Key binding M-g should really be goto-line autolearn=no version=3.0.2 autolearn=no version=3.0.2 Alfred M. Szmidt
2005-03-02 15:36         ` Key binding M-g should really be goto-line autolearn=no version=3.0.2 " Jari Aalto
2005-03-02 19:03         ` Key binding M-g should really be goto-line autolearn=noversion=3.0.2 " Drew Adams
2005-03-03 12:29           ` Andreas Schwab
2005-03-03 17:27             ` Drew Adams
2005-03-03 21:18               ` Kevin Rodgers
2005-03-03 22:24                 ` Drew Adams
2005-03-04 23:45                 ` Richard Stallman
2005-03-05  0:24                   ` Miles Bader
2005-03-05  0:49                     ` Key binding M-g should really be goto-lineautolearn=noversion=3.0.2 " Drew Adams
2005-03-05  1:27                       ` Miles Bader
2005-03-05  1:55                         ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-03-05 11:05                           ` Reiner Steib
2005-03-05  2:00                         ` Drew Adams
2005-03-05  2:32                           ` Miles Bader
2005-03-05 19:00                         ` Stefan Monnier
2005-03-05 19:32                           ` Miles Bader
2005-03-05 20:22                           ` Key binding M-g should really be goto-line Johan Bockgård
2005-03-05 23:16                             ` Miles Bader
2005-03-06  9:50                               ` David Kastrup
2005-03-06 21:15                   ` Key binding M-g should really be goto-line autolearn=noversion=3.0.2 autolearn=no version=3.0.2 Kim F. Storm
2005-03-06 22:38                     ` Miles Bader
2005-03-06 22:40                       ` Miles Bader
2005-03-03 21:58               ` Andreas Schwab
2005-03-02 18:18       ` Key binding M-g should really be goto-line " Eli Zaretskii
2005-03-01 23:49 ` Key binding M-g should really be goto-line Alfred M. Szmidt
2005-03-02  1:00   ` Ralf Angeli
2005-03-02  1:14     ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2005-03-02  8:08       ` Ralf Angeli
2005-03-02  1:19     ` David Kastrup
2005-03-02 13:40   ` Robert J. Chassell
2005-03-02  2:01 ` Key binding M-g should really be goto-line autolearn=no version=3.0.2 Jari Aalto+mail.linux
2005-03-02  2:06 ` Key binding M-g should really be goto-line Luc Teirlinck
2005-03-03  2:29   ` Richard Stallman
2005-03-02  9:24 ` Kai Großjohann
2005-03-02 11:15 ` Jari Aalto+mail.emacs
2005-03-02 13:52   ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2005-03-02 14:50     ` Josh Varner
2005-03-02 16:38       ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2005-03-02 17:16         ` Reiner Steib
2005-03-02 17:52           ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2005-03-02 19:01           ` Johan Bockgård
2005-03-02 20:23             ` Gaetan Leurent
2005-03-02 20:46               ` Miles Bader
2005-03-02 20:33             ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2005-03-02 15:38   ` Jari Aalto
2005-03-03  2:29 ` Richard Stallman
2005-03-03  7:19 ` Jari Aalto
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-03-09  7:05 Juri Linkov
2005-03-09  7:53 ` Miles Bader
2005-03-09  8:32 ` Kim F. Storm
2005-03-10  6:28   ` Juri Linkov
2005-03-09  9:58 ` David Kastrup
2005-03-09 10:47   ` Miles Bader
2005-03-09 13:17     ` David Kastrup
2005-03-09 11:27   ` Kim F. Storm
2005-03-10  9:18     ` Piet van Oostrum
2005-03-10 10:16       ` Miles Bader
2005-03-10 10:47       ` Kim F. Storm
2005-03-10  2:03   ` Richard Stallman
2005-03-09 21:51 ` Romain Francoise
2005-03-09 22:34   ` David Kastrup
2005-03-10  0:33     ` Miles Bader
2005-03-10  0:54       ` David Kastrup
2005-03-10  1:28       ` Johan Bockgård
2005-03-10  6:29         ` Juri Linkov
2005-03-10  7:24           ` Romain Francoise
2005-03-10 10:48             ` David Kastrup
2005-03-10 11:41               ` Romain Francoise
2005-03-10 13:23                 ` Andreas Schwab
2005-03-10 15:19                   ` Kim F. Storm
2005-03-18 10:27 ` Romain Francoise
2005-03-19  3:09   ` Richard Stallman
2005-03-19  9:20     ` David Kastrup
2005-03-20 14:41     ` Romain Francoise
2005-03-21  1:18       ` Richard Stallman

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