* Re: Emacs-diffs Digest, Vol 6, Issue 5 [not found] <E19BiZh-00012A-00@monty-python.gnu.org> @ 2003-05-03 8:15 ` Eli Zaretskii 2003-05-03 12:26 ` Glenn Morris 2003-05-03 17:57 ` extended @uref command? (was: Emacs-diffs Digest, Vol 6, Issue 5) Reiner Steib 0 siblings, 2 replies; 5+ messages in thread From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2003-05-03 8:15 UTC (permalink / raw) Cc: Glenn Morris Glenn, I have a few comments regarding the last changes in the FAQ. > + Sometimes users are unsure as to where their @file{.emacs} file should > + be found. Visiting the file as @file{~/.emacs} from Emacs will find > + the correct file. I think every useful piece of information in the FAQ should be indexed. A FAQ, even more than a manual, is a large collection of small pieces of information, so it is practically impossible to quickly get to the info one is looking for without that info being indexed. The above snippet should certainly have an index entry, IMHO. > + The version available from @uref{http://meltin.net/hacks/emacs/} is > + more recent, and has been tested under Emacs 21.2. I think "under Emacs" sounds awkward. "has been tested with Emacs 21.2" is better, in my opinion. > ! The Emacs Lisp List (ELL), > ! @uref{http://www.anc.ed.ac.uk/~stephen/emacs/ell.html}, maintained by I think it's better to use @uref with 2 arguments here, like this: @uref{http://www.anc.ed.ac.uk/~stephen/emacs/ell.html, The Emacs Lisp List (ELL)}, maintained by The results will look better in HTML, for example. > ! internet. The ELL can be browsed over the web, or from Emacs using the > ! @file{ell} package, @uref{http://www.anc.ed.ac.uk/~stephen/emacs/ell.el}. Same here: make "@file{ell} package" be part of @uref. > ! Many authors post their packages to the newsgroup > ! @uref{news:gnu.emacs.sources}. And here. I'd rewrite this as Many authors post their packages to the @uref{news:gnu.emacs.sources, Emacs sources news group}. There are more such instances in the changes; I think almost all of them should be revised as above. > ! For a long time, the Emacs Lisp Archive provided a central repository > ! for Emacs packages. Sadly, it has not been active for some time, > ! although you can still access the old files at This should probably have an index entry, about the archive being unmaintained. > ! * AUC-TeX:: > * BBDB:: > * Ispell:: > * w3-mode:: > --- 3874,3880 ---- > * Supercite:: > * Calc:: > * VIPER:: > ! * AUCTeX:: Isn't "AUC-TeX" the official spelling of the package, as Per wants it? Last, but not least, thanks for working on these changes! ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
* Re: Emacs-diffs Digest, Vol 6, Issue 5 2003-05-03 8:15 ` Emacs-diffs Digest, Vol 6, Issue 5 Eli Zaretskii @ 2003-05-03 12:26 ` Glenn Morris 2003-05-03 17:57 ` extended @uref command? (was: Emacs-diffs Digest, Vol 6, Issue 5) Reiner Steib 1 sibling, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread From: Glenn Morris @ 2003-05-03 12:26 UTC (permalink / raw) Cc: emacs-devel Eli Zaretskii wrote (on Sat, 3 May 2003 at 11:15 +0300): [some better ways to use texinfo commands and other sensible suggestions] All your suggestions seem very good to me, I will change things along those lines. Thanks for the feedback. > Isn't "AUC-TeX" the official spelling of the package, as Per wants it? It was decided (in January, on the AUCTeX mailing list) to change the spelling to AUCTeX. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
* extended @uref command? (was: Emacs-diffs Digest, Vol 6, Issue 5) 2003-05-03 8:15 ` Emacs-diffs Digest, Vol 6, Issue 5 Eli Zaretskii 2003-05-03 12:26 ` Glenn Morris @ 2003-05-03 17:57 ` Reiner Steib 2003-05-03 18:55 ` Eli Zaretskii 1 sibling, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread From: Reiner Steib @ 2003-05-03 17:57 UTC (permalink / raw) Cc: help-texinfo On Sat, May 03 2003, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > I think it's better to use @uref with 2 arguments here, like this: > > @uref{http://www.anc.ed.ac.uk/~stephen/emacs/ell.html, The Emacs > Lisp List (ELL)}, maintained by > > The results will look better in HTML, for example. ACK. But in the printed version (produced with texi2dvi) looks like this: | The Emacs Lisp List (ELL) | (http://www.anc.ed.ac.uk/~stephen/emacs/ell.html) Especially with long URLs, this isn't very readable and often leeds to `underfull \hbox'es. Therefore, I use a macro @rsuref, producing a footnote in non-html output: @macro rsuref{url,text} @ifhtml @uref{\url\,\text\}@c @end ifhtml @ifnothtml \text\@footnote{@uref{\url\} (\text\)}@c @end ifnothtml @end macro Would it make sense to add a similar command (say @furef{url,text}) in texinfo (or extend @uref{})? Cc: & Mail-Followup-To: help-texinfo@gnu.org Bye, Reiner. -- ,,, (o o) ---ooO-(_)-Ooo--- PGP key available via WWW http://rsteib.home.pages.de/ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
* Re: extended @uref command? (was: Emacs-diffs Digest, Vol 6, Issue 5) 2003-05-03 17:57 ` extended @uref command? (was: Emacs-diffs Digest, Vol 6, Issue 5) Reiner Steib @ 2003-05-03 18:55 ` Eli Zaretskii 0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2003-05-03 18:55 UTC (permalink / raw) > From: Reiner Steib <4.uce.03.r.s@nurfuerspam.de> > Date: Sat, 03 May 2003 19:57:24 +0200 > > ACK. But in the printed version (produced with texi2dvi) looks like > this: > > | The Emacs Lisp List (ELL) > | (http://www.anc.ed.ac.uk/~stephen/emacs/ell.html) > > Especially with long URLs, this isn't very readable and often leeds to > `underfull \hbox'es. It is a long-standing issue with Texinfo to teach it to hyphenate URLs. I hope some day this will be solved. > Therefore, I use a macro @rsuref, producing a footnote in non-html > output: This was suggested in the past, perhaps even by you. Personally, I don't like this solution, but that's me. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
* Re: extended @uref command? (was: Emacs-diffs Digest, Vol 6, Issue 5) @ 2003-05-04 0:23 Karl Berry 0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread From: Karl Berry @ 2003-05-04 0:23 UTC (permalink / raw) Cc: emacs-devel and often leeds to `underfull \hbox'es. True enough. As Eli says, I hope to make url's breakable in TeX at some point. Unfortunately the url.sty and hyperref packages aren't usable as is, because Texinfo has to parse the arguments differently. \text\@footnote{@uref{\url\} (\text\)}@c I appreciate that this can help with the line breaking. But in my opinion, having lots of footnotes with url's is distracting to the reader (having just reviewed several papers written in that style), so I don't especially want to add this to the base Texinfo. Thanks, karl ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
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