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From: Per Abrahamsen <abraham@dina.kvl.dk>
Subject: CC (was: Re: kill ring menu)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 11:22:13 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <rj7kmq7tbu.fsf_-_@zuse.dina.kvl.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1020058652.27106.353.camel@space-ghost> (Colin Walters's message of "29 Apr 2002 01:37:32 -0400")

Colin Walters <walters@debian.org> writes:

> When CC'ing, you are making an assumption that I filter my mail into
> separate mailboxes, and that I don't read those lists constantly.

Nope, we make the assumption that it is an open list where
non-subscribers can send messages, and do not make the extra manual
effort to remove the CC for people we believe are subscribing.

> A more reasonable assumption to make is that someone who posts to a
> list is subscribed to it.  Almost all of us who participate in
> regular discussion are subscribed, I'm sure.  If someone posts who
> *isn't* subscribed, then the onus is on *them* to say "Please CC
> me".  That way everyone else doesn't suffer just because a few lazy
> people occasionally post to the list without being subscribed
> outside.

Nobody has to suffer, as it is trivial (depending on the agent) to 

1) avoid getting the duplicates in the first place, and
2) filter out the duplicates if you get them

and both can be fully automated.

We can't really expect non-subscribers to know special rules for the
mailing lists, or subscribers to remember who is and isn't subscribed,
and manually add or remove those from the list.  And none of that can
be automated.  

> If I can't change this, then I just hope that a polite request at
> the top of my messages will at least prevent me personally from
> being CC'd.

Please consider using 

       Mail-Followups-To: list-name 

or

       Mail-Copies-To: never

or both, which will make at least some mail clients avoid the CC
automatically.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-04-29  9:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-04-28 19:41 kill ring menu Colin Walters
2002-04-28 20:06 ` Colin Walters
2002-04-29  5:05   ` Richard Stallman
2002-04-29 18:40     ` Richard Stallman
2002-04-28 22:53 ` Miles Bader
2002-04-28 23:36 ` Stefan Monnier
2002-04-28 23:42   ` Miles Bader
2002-04-29  4:34   ` Colin Walters
2002-04-30  4:49     ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-04-29  3:35 ` Miles Bader
2002-04-29  4:37   ` Colin Walters
2002-04-29  4:56     ` Miles Bader
2002-04-29  5:37       ` Colin Walters
2002-04-29  7:09         ` Miles Bader
2002-04-30  5:18           ` Richard Stallman
2002-04-30 10:18             ` Per Abrahamsen
2002-04-29  9:22         ` Per Abrahamsen [this message]
2002-04-29 15:11           ` CC (was: Re: kill ring menu) Benjamin Rutt
2002-04-29 15:31             ` Miles Bader
2002-04-30  5:19             ` Richard Stallman
2002-04-30 10:14           ` Per Abrahamsen
2002-04-30 11:08             ` Simon Josefsson
2002-04-29 10:10         ` Addressing email (was: " Eli Zaretskii
2002-04-29 13:13         ` kill ring menu Stefan Monnier
2002-04-29 18:40   ` Richard Stallman
     [not found] ` <200204290505.g3T55t006146@aztec.santafe.edu>
     [not found]   ` <1020059236.31789.358.camel@space-ghost>
     [not found]     ` <200204300519.g3U5Js306727@aztec.santafe.edu>
     [not found]       ` <1020212569.27106.2246.camel@space-ghost>
     [not found]         ` <200205011926.g41JQBC07690@aztec.santafe.edu>
     [not found]           ` <1020284783.27106.3417.camel@space-ghost>
2002-05-03 18:25             ` Richard Stallman
2002-05-03 18:46               ` Miles Bader
2002-05-03 19:05               ` Miles Bader
2002-05-03 20:20                 ` Colin Walters
2002-05-04  1:34                   ` Miles Bader
2002-05-04  3:36                 ` Richard Stallman
2002-05-04  3:49                   ` Miles Bader
2002-05-05  5:34                     ` Richard Stallman
2002-05-04  6:04                 ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]       ` <1020320725.27616.54.camel@space-ghost>
     [not found]         ` <200205031825.g43IPuD00768@aztec.santafe.edu>
     [not found]           ` <1020502030.5286.25.camel@space-ghost>
2002-05-05 17:46             ` Richard Stallman
2002-05-06  5:15               ` Colin Walters
2002-05-06  6:39                 ` Miles Bader
2002-05-06 22:55                   ` Colin Walters
2002-05-07  1:35                     ` Miles Bader
2002-05-07  3:55                       ` Colin Walters
2002-05-07  4:18                         ` Miles Bader
2002-05-07 20:07                         ` Richard Stallman
2002-05-07 20:38                           ` Colin Walters
2002-05-08  0:20                             ` Miles Bader
2002-05-08  6:05                               ` Colin Walters
2002-05-08  6:50                                 ` Miles Bader
2002-05-08  7:36                                   ` Colin Walters
2002-05-08  7:48                                     ` Miles Bader
2002-05-08  8:57                                     ` Colin Walters
2002-05-08 13:14                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2002-05-09  4:29                                         ` Colin Walters
2002-05-09 10:08                                           ` Kim F. Storm
2002-05-09  2:45                             ` Richard Stallman
2002-05-09  4:28                               ` Colin Walters
2002-05-10  0:30                                 ` Richard Stallman
2002-05-16 18:47                                   ` Colin Walters
2002-05-16 19:12                                     ` Miles Bader
2002-05-16 19:20                                       ` Colin Walters
2002-05-16 19:36                                         ` Miles Bader
2002-05-16 19:45                                           ` Miles Bader
2002-05-16 19:54                                           ` Colin Walters
2002-05-16 20:12                                     ` Miles Bader
2002-05-16 20:17                                       ` Colin Walters
2002-05-16 20:23                                         ` Miles Bader
2002-05-16 21:47                                           ` Colin Walters
2002-05-16 21:54                                           ` Kim F. Storm
2002-05-16 21:15                                             ` Miles Bader
2002-05-17 19:29                                       ` Richard Stallman
2002-05-07 19:22                     ` Alex Schroeder
2002-05-09 20:09                       ` Colin Walters
2002-05-11  6:30                       ` Richard Stallman
2002-05-13 22:17                         ` Colin Walters
2002-05-14  8:36                           ` Miles Bader
2002-05-14 12:49                           ` Emacs 21.4 (was: kill ring menu) Eli Zaretskii
2002-05-15  7:01                           ` kill ring menu Richard Stallman
2002-05-06  6:46                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2002-05-06 22:46                   ` Colin Walters
2002-05-08 10:06                     ` Francesco Potorti`
2002-05-08 10:20                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-05-06 19:32                 ` Richard Stallman
2002-05-07  4:03                   ` Colin Walters
2002-05-07  5:27                     ` Eli Zaretskii

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